Australian Masters Nats?? CRAZY FAST!!!

If you want to know SCM or LCM look to see if they raced the IM at 100m.

So... the debate about holding SCM Nationals - where are we with that anyway? I have wondered since my return to masters swimming: Since the USA is the only country in the world swimming 25 yard meets, why do we hold Short Course Nationals? It seems logical that the National Championships would be held in SCM - 25 meters and then again in LC - 50 meters. It would be great to be able to compare times swum in actual national championships for short course meters. Instead we rely on SCM regional and 1-day meets to post fast SCM times. There really is not much difference in training for SCM meets in a 25 yard pool, so we can't use that excuse. Lets' consider other opportunities to race the world in recognized measurement. Just asking...

So... the debate about holding SCM Nationals - where are we with that anyway? I have wondered since my return to masters swimming: Since the USA is the only country in the world swimming 25 yard meets, why do we hold Short Course Nationals? It seems logical that the National Championships would be held in SCM - 25 meters and then again in LC - 50 meters. It would be great to be able to compare times swum in actual national championships for short course meters. Instead we rely on SCM regional and 1-day meets to post fast SCM times. There really is not much difference in training for SCM meets in a 25 yard pool, so we can't use that excuse. Lets' consider other opportunities to race the world in recognized measurement. Just asking... I agree 100%. I'd like to see us "flip" the seasons and have the May Nationals SCM and transform the Fall regional meets to SCY.

I agree 100%. I'd like to see us "flip" the seasons and have the May Nationals SCM and transform the Fall regional meets to SCY. Agreed. I'd sign up for that plan as well. I'm always disappointed by the paucity of SCM meets.

I was just looking at some websites (I wanted to see where and if they had world rankings and if I would be ranked!!) Anyway, I came across results from the recent Australian Masters Nats... Was that meet LCM?? or SCM?? Does anybody know?? The reason I ask is because I saw that Daniel Kowaski (I am assuming the former swimmer??) went 1.53 for the 200, 3.58 for the 400 and 8.18 for the 800!!! does anyone know if that is correct? Doesnt give me much hope, that is ridiculously fast!! good on him if it is him as you dont see many of the recent swimmers doing Masters... Daniel Kowalski swam in Atlanta Olympic 1996. en.wikipedia.org/.../Daniel_Kowalski

Curiosity got the better of me...it was long course. And yes that was quite a 200 free. www.portal.aussi.org.au/.../index.php

What - that is just outrageous - I think the rest of the world should switch to yards. That is the only solution. It makes so much more sense - the smallest measure is an inch, because nobody needs anything smaller than the size of an inch - then 12 inches make a foot -- and 3 of those make a yard. Then we need 1760 yards for a mile - while we are at it, we should change the 1650 and actually make it into a 1750. I have lived here 20 years and i still have no idea how big an acre is :badday: My vote is to change the SCM season into a team type of meet -- for what it's worth. Kowalski is crazy fast - sub 4 minutes ? Well - it does come easier when you have cracked the 15 minutes in the mile a few times - oh no actually it was the 1500m - not the mile.

So... the debate about holding SCM Nationals - where are we with that anyway? Since the USA is the only country in the world swimming 25 yard meets, why do we hold Short Course Nationals? It seems logical that the National Championships would be held in SCM - 25 meters and then again in LC - 50 meters. Just asking... There are a couple of problems: Most areas just don't have many SCM pools, and have very few SCM meets per year. Southern Pacific (where Ahelee swims) probably has more SCM meets than any other LMSC (5 per year, but only 4 last year due to one pool undergoing renovation). The second problem is to locate a facility with two SCM courses. I'm not sure Belmont, with one SCM course, could handle a meet more than 600 without going to more days (500 made for long days as it was). That means for a 4 day meet it could probably handle 700-800. After that you'd need two pools. SCY is very popular. You'd get a LOT of push back if you tried to move or eliminate the SCY nationals. It generally has 1.5 as many attendees as LC nationals, and that should tell you something. (I prefer SC yards or meters, more walls to hang on to during the 200 fly). I'd like to see a SCM nationals, it would be fun to have another meet with 7 turns for the 200 fly.

the smallest measure is an inch, because nobody needs anything smaller than the size of an inch - then 12 inches make a foot -- and 3 of those make a yard. Then we need 1760 yards for a mile - while we are at it, we should change the 1650 and actually make it into a 1750. I have lived here 20 years and i still have no idea how big an acre is :badday: Hey, don't forget the horsepower at 550 foot-pounds per second! :)

So... the debate about holding SCM Nationals - where are we with that anyway? I have wondered since my return to masters swimming: Since the USA is the only country in the world swimming 25 yard meets, why do we hold Short Course Nationals? It seems logical that the National Championships would be held in SCM - 25 meters and then again in LC - 50 meters. Over in Sweden our Maters Nationals is SCM. Swedish Swimming Organization is working on getting a LCM nationals started. This year will be an unofficial LCM nationals. Next year sweden is hosting worlds, but the thought is that in 2011 we will have an official Masters Nationals in LCM.