SDK on your back without breathing out your nose

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Former Member
Sorry for the lengthy title, but I am looking for advice on how to improve my underwater dolphin kick on my back, without expelling all my breath out of my nose in order to keep water out of my nose. In this video, the girl in the beginning is not expelling air out of her nose while kicking on her back. Then later, the guy does expel air out of his nose, but he must go about 10-15 yards underwater. erg.goswim.tv/.../backstroke---underwater-dolphin---size.html I only seem to be able to go 5, maybe 10 yards (with fresh lungs), but I always have to expel air out of my nose or else I get water in the brain. Any advice on how I can not expel water out of my nose to conserve my breath and kick longer underwater? Thanks!
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 5 years ago
    I guess half of THESE competitve swimmers troll around as well by not releasing bubbles during the underwater dolphin... www.youtube.com/watch
  • I do not understand why you have invested so much effort to justify you being wrong so you can feel like you're a failure at something.
  • Ok, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel worse about yourself, because apparently that's what you want.
  • Now you're trying to give advice for something nobody but you cares to do but you apparently believe everyone but you can do?
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    Former Member over 5 years ago
    Look. I can be wrong, for sure. But for example, today I talked to a guy, who is 187 cm tall and 120 kg, he is untrained, he does not swim regurarly, neither has he ever been a competitive or regular swimmer in his childhood. In summer he usually goes to the nearby lake and during the winter he goes to baths sometimes. He told me he started trying to be face-up underwater and equalize the pressure in the nose and he succeeded after 2 hours of practice. He also told me that how he did it was with the diaphragm. Like if you're constantly blowing bubbles out, and then suddenly stop the bubble stream with the diaphragm. (and not with the closing of the soft palate, neither the epiglottis)... He is not the only untrained person who could do this easily, there are tons of other people I've talked to. Like, non swimmers. I also found a blog, blog.swimator.com/.../human-nose-clip-getting-water-up-my.html I'm begging you to read the second method. I also contacted this guy on facebook and asked him because I've tried this method yet the water still flooded my nose. He told me that after you suck in a little water to the entrance of your nasal passages, you have to push a little air to equalize the pressure. This claim justifies the stocky, untrained guy mentioned before, who used his diaphragm to stop the bubble stream and the only way you can stop the bubble stream with your diaphragm is that you contract that muscle, and that is equal to the inhalation process. That is why sucking little water into the entrance of the nasal passage works for a lot of people, as they instinctively push a little air somehow afterwards to equalize pressure. This is described as a natural human reflex by the two doctors. Again, I am not trying to convince you about how it is NOT good to be full exhaling underwater face-up or wearing a nose clip or using the upper lip. No. I have never said those were WRONG and please accept that fact. But I also realized how you slated me without properly reading what I was trying to tell you. This is a forum swimming related and this is a swimming related issue. Even a swimming coach confirmed that this thing exists.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 5 years ago
    I am a failure at something I've been practising for months already that other people learn in 2 hours and yes, it is extremely humiliating, that is why I invested so much effort into investigating the secret of this thing. Just too many people around me can do this for me not to be keen on learning it myself as well.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 5 years ago
    Things that Rykno forgot to mention about what he's talking about: 1. There are people with such nose anatomy that allows them to reduce the bubble stream to a tiny level without water entering their noses, from there it is very easy to find the balance. Practice method: Try reducing the bubble stream as much as possible until you reach the balance. 2. However, there are a number of people whose noses get flooded when they reduce the bubble stream under a certain level. (meaning that they'll have to practice the instant stop of the bubble stream) With that said: Practice method 1: If you're blowing bubbles out you can alternatively try to suddenly close your soft-palate and at the same time press your tounge against the roof of your palate (palatum durum). This maneuver for some people creates enough pressure and vacuum to keep water outside of the nasal cavity. Practice method 2: If the soft-palate trick doesn't work for you, you'll have to control the bubble stream by using your diaphragm only. Pay attention to have an opened epiglottis and soft-palate during the process, as the way of air should be guaranteed. You may as well instinctively close your soft palate to avoid getting water in your throat, this is a habit you should give up to practice properly. Step one: Apply a strong enough bubble stream out of your nose that doesn't allow water to enter. Step two: Instantly stop that bubble stream completely with your diaphragm (by contracting it / inhalation process) With this water will enter to the entrance of your nostrils. Step three: Push a little air to equalize the pressure between the air in your nose and the water at the entrance of your nasal passages. Extra advice: You can also use your abdominals to force pressure up your nose. Note that step three is considered as a "natural reflex" by professional doctors and swim coaches, which means it should happen automatically after a certain amount of practice. If it doesn't happen, you should go and see a nose doctor.
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    Former Member over 5 years ago
    My behaviour may have been retarded but that doesn't mean I can't add further information to a member's post an idiot like me might find useful. However, it is not my domain to argue or fight anymore against anyone.
  • My behaviour may have been retarded .... However, it is not my domain to argue or fight anymore against anyone. First off, we don't use the "retarded" word anymore. Secondly, thank you for finally insisting the arguments can end!