The Suits can stay -- but swimmers must decide !

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I think we can all be certain that the suits are here to stay -- love them, hate them, it does not really matter -- Speedo, TYR and the others will not allow the suits to all over sudden disappear. But, we as Masters swimmers have to make a decision about our own reasoning to compete -- why do we compete in swim meets ? There are many reasons - social, participating in a sport beats the hell out of watching one on TV and so on --- but for me, 2 of the main reasons are the competition aspects. We obviously compete against other swimmers --- but more than maybe many other sports, we compete against ourselves. I can tell you my best 100 Free from every season over the last 30 years (10 of which I did not compete). I have used most of the suits and did very well -- I set some personal bests and also achieved some record swims, but I have no idea how my times really compare to other seasons. I can keep telling myself that all that speedwork and lifting paid off - but I just don't know. I like to give a golf comparison -- let's say you have a home course and you always shoot in the low 90s going from the Blue Tees --- well guess what, if you are going from the white tees you will probably average high 80s and going from the red you may get down to the mid to low 80s. But you are not a better player because of it. The LZR seems to be the "white tees" and the new Jaked suit may be the "red tees". I think we really have to make a decision now to what matters more -- your personal records and history of swimming or the competition against other swimmers ? For me, this may change from meet to meet - but I must be able to stay honest with myself and be able to compare my times -- I do not want to be cheating myself. Old generations suits (Fastskin Pro) only for: all major Masters meets (individual swims) except for Worlds. That means, I am ok to lose a few places in a meet, in order to know what my time really means. I could just go really old school -- but I think the older generation suits are pretty equal to shaving -- and they allow you to be "shaved" and swim fast in season, which is a huge plus. LZR / Blue70 for: relays, Worlds and maybe some USS meets, if I am going for a time standard. I want to give any relay my fastest time possible - I swimming Worlds to win the title, so if others use the suits, I will have to do the same - if I go to USS meets, I may use them to get into the finals or to make a time standard for a big meet. It may take some adjustments - but I think it will work -- Who is with me ?
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  • I guess you were up late drinking to excess from existential angst again? Get a grip, there is a huge difference between legal and illegal conduct. Paul, I heartily agree about the money comment, and think it's a terrible result that B70 may be banned while the LZR gets off scot free ... As to the straight arm recovery, I see your point. As a straight arm freestyler, I do feel it's hard to sustain over increased distance -- one reason I rarely swim anything over a 50 free! However, I can't sustain it with or without a B70. That's probably because I'm a broken down master, but nevertheless, it ain't helping me that way. I think the B70 has a disproportionate impact in other ways too. I've always thought it helps people with poor body position and poor technique more, or those that are tall and/or overweight. And then there's the theory that it helps certain strokes more than others ... Do you think Austin Staab kicks 15 yds underwater for all 4 lengths but on the last one after his breakout he swims the last 10 yds without taking a breath and goes 44.18 in the 100 fly...without one of these suits? Little has been discussed about this feat but it may be one of the more incredible things ever seen in our sport.
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  • I guess you were up late drinking to excess from existential angst again? Get a grip, there is a huge difference between legal and illegal conduct. Paul, I heartily agree about the money comment, and think it's a terrible result that B70 may be banned while the LZR gets off scot free ... As to the straight arm recovery, I see your point. As a straight arm freestyler, I do feel it's hard to sustain over increased distance -- one reason I rarely swim anything over a 50 free! However, I can't sustain it with or without a B70. That's probably because I'm a broken down master, but nevertheless, it ain't helping me that way. I think the B70 has a disproportionate impact in other ways too. I've always thought it helps people with poor body position and poor technique more, or those that are tall and/or overweight. And then there's the theory that it helps certain strokes more than others ... Do you think Austin Staab kicks 15 yds underwater for all 4 lengths but on the last one after his breakout he swims the last 10 yds without taking a breath and goes 44.18 in the 100 fly...without one of these suits? Little has been discussed about this feat but it may be one of the more incredible things ever seen in our sport.
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