The Suits can stay -- but swimmers must decide !

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I think we can all be certain that the suits are here to stay -- love them, hate them, it does not really matter -- Speedo, TYR and the others will not allow the suits to all over sudden disappear. But, we as Masters swimmers have to make a decision about our own reasoning to compete -- why do we compete in swim meets ? There are many reasons - social, participating in a sport beats the hell out of watching one on TV and so on --- but for me, 2 of the main reasons are the competition aspects. We obviously compete against other swimmers --- but more than maybe many other sports, we compete against ourselves. I can tell you my best 100 Free from every season over the last 30 years (10 of which I did not compete). I have used most of the suits and did very well -- I set some personal bests and also achieved some record swims, but I have no idea how my times really compare to other seasons. I can keep telling myself that all that speedwork and lifting paid off - but I just don't know. I like to give a golf comparison -- let's say you have a home course and you always shoot in the low 90s going from the Blue Tees --- well guess what, if you are going from the white tees you will probably average high 80s and going from the red you may get down to the mid to low 80s. But you are not a better player because of it. The LZR seems to be the "white tees" and the new Jaked suit may be the "red tees". I think we really have to make a decision now to what matters more -- your personal records and history of swimming or the competition against other swimmers ? For me, this may change from meet to meet - but I must be able to stay honest with myself and be able to compare my times -- I do not want to be cheating myself. Old generations suits (Fastskin Pro) only for: all major Masters meets (individual swims) except for Worlds. That means, I am ok to lose a few places in a meet, in order to know what my time really means. I could just go really old school -- but I think the older generation suits are pretty equal to shaving -- and they allow you to be "shaved" and swim fast in season, which is a huge plus. LZR / Blue70 for: relays, Worlds and maybe some USS meets, if I am going for a time standard. I want to give any relay my fastest time possible - I swimming Worlds to win the title, so if others use the suits, I will have to do the same - if I go to USS meets, I may use them to get into the finals or to make a time standard for a big meet. It may take some adjustments - but I think it will work -- Who is with me ?
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    Geek? Sometimes the swimmers let their coaches do most of the talking: www.shanghaidaily.com/.../article_399126.htm Some are...sort of Ok with them... www.floswimming.org/.../5640-should-there-be-a-limit-to-suit-technology Pieter sums things up pretty well I think: articles.latimes.com/.../sp-swim27 I think Gary is correct that the debate sadly has left the discussion of PED's in the dust: olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/.../ More: www.swimnews.com/.../6806 You may also want to talk to any of the men's swimmers at NCAA's that did not swim for Auburn about some of their swimmers showing up in the Jaked suit... But that was my point. The suits have made times relative. My point is that we all know the suits make a small/big/huge difference. Therefore, it's not realistic to compare Bousquet's times to Biondi or Jager. They were the best at their time, no doubt. If some high-schooler now goes 19 low, does anyone really think he's better than they were? It is important that FINA makes sure suits are "comparable", or you will continue the escalation. I am not pro-B70, pro-LZR, pro-Jaked, or pro-TYR. If the playing field can be leveled, a la some other sports with technology restrictions, then we can all stop talking about this, and get back to 'roids and HGH. I am happy to race anyone at any time - 'cept you. As long as we have the same suits, it's all good. And Verhaeren is a blow-hard - one Dutchman to another.
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    Geek? Sometimes the swimmers let their coaches do most of the talking: www.shanghaidaily.com/.../article_399126.htm Some are...sort of Ok with them... www.floswimming.org/.../5640-should-there-be-a-limit-to-suit-technology Pieter sums things up pretty well I think: articles.latimes.com/.../sp-swim27 I think Gary is correct that the debate sadly has left the discussion of PED's in the dust: olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/.../ More: www.swimnews.com/.../6806 You may also want to talk to any of the men's swimmers at NCAA's that did not swim for Auburn about some of their swimmers showing up in the Jaked suit... But that was my point. The suits have made times relative. My point is that we all know the suits make a small/big/huge difference. Therefore, it's not realistic to compare Bousquet's times to Biondi or Jager. They were the best at their time, no doubt. If some high-schooler now goes 19 low, does anyone really think he's better than they were? It is important that FINA makes sure suits are "comparable", or you will continue the escalation. I am not pro-B70, pro-LZR, pro-Jaked, or pro-TYR. If the playing field can be leveled, a la some other sports with technology restrictions, then we can all stop talking about this, and get back to 'roids and HGH. I am happy to race anyone at any time - 'cept you. As long as we have the same suits, it's all good. And Verhaeren is a blow-hard - one Dutchman to another.
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