In Pacific, we only count times swum in Pacific sanctioned meets for our Top Tens and Records.
I was wondering if your LMSC counts times swum at Nationals, or in other LMSCs, in your LMSC tabulations?
This has always been frustrating for me, especially during LC season, as we usually only have one or two meets. Last year and this year we had one meet, our LC championships! I would love to be able to have Nationals times count, and/or be able to enter meets in other LMSCs and have the times count in Pacific tabulations.
If you respond, could you tell me what LMSC you're in? I'm going to present "my case" at our May meeting.
Thanks : ]
Which I guess, after getting more info from Jim, my point is this:
Why should only record setting times count in Pacific? We do have a Top Ten list in Pacific. Nancy Ridout is absolutely phenomenal about making sure that our times are accurate and submitted.
If anyone in Pacific swims in other meets outside our LMSC, I think those times should count in the Top Ten for Pacific (they already do for USMS).
I guess what made me think of all this is that we have ONE long course meet this year in Pacific. So if people want to break records, etc. they will have to go elsewhere if they want more than one chance.
I guess what made me think of all this is that we have ONE long course meet this year in Pacific. So if people want to break records, etc. they will have to go elsewhere if they want more than one chance.
But that's true regardless of PA Top Ten consideration; and no matter where they swim, if they break a PA record, it will count...as a record...and perhaps as a USMS Top Ten when it's all said and done.
I understand what you're saying about records. I get that they count no matter where they are swum. I'm just talking about regular 'ol swims. I want them to count in in the PMS TT even if they are swum outside of Pacific.
I was just mentioning that we only have one meet as people may want more than one chance at making TT and at breaking records. And the only way for that to happen is to swim out of a Pac sanctioned meet.
I understand what you're saying about records. I get that they count no matter where they are swum. I'm just talking about regular 'ol swims. I want them to count in in the PMS TT even if they are swum outside of Pacific.
I was just mentioning that we only have one meet as people may want more than one chance at making TT and at breaking records. And the only way for that to happen is to swim out of a Pac sanctioned meet.
Hopefully, Michael and Nancy can enlighten us at the May meeting.
Also, there was a rumor going around that Burlingame (Scott) might put on a LC meet but I haven't heard anything for awhile now about that still possibly happening.
I think they put a meet on at the last minute last year. I was glad to see Scott at USF. I thought he was gone completely from masters, turns out just
from the Oly Club. Phew. I like him a lot. :agree:
WCM would be happy to have a LC meet, we did for years, except we have now been told that it's not safe to dive in that course! I guess it was safe for the first 25 years, but suddenly not now.
Hopefully, with A LOT of work, we'll be getting a new state of the art aquatic center in the next several years. If the city can spend upwards of $15m for a library it doesn't need, and not too many people use, I think an aquatic center should be a no-brainer. Our pool is full almost every day. It's hard to even find parking anymore. :blah: Got myself started!
WCM would be happy to have a LC meet, we did for years, except we have now been told that it's not safe to dive in that course! I guess it was safe for the first 25 years, but suddenly not now.
Got the same thing at work. We have a building with a "device" located in it. Building's been in existence for 25+ years with insurance folks and facility auditors crawling thru it a couple of times a year, both groups trying to make sure we're all "safe" ('cause everyone knows we can't take care of ourselves, I guess). All of a sudden, one of the auditors notices we don't have lighted "exit" signage over the three personnel doors. Have to stop everything and install the dang things. Thing is we take fast photos of some of the goings-on inside the stoopid building and the light would interfere with the shots. So I gotta get switched (on/off) exit signs that we can turn off as long as we verify Elvis has left the building (nobody's inside). Dumb thing is, that no one can be in the building during a test otherwise they'll have only a few days of life left if a shot occurs and they're not "protected" and we have procedures in place that make sure that particular circumstance doesn't occur.
Anyway, only way I can figure out why we haven't killed someone because we didn't have the signs up is sheer, dumb luck. Doh. NOT!
Wow, I guess I got a little off topic. Oops.
First, let me just say I've only skimmed this thread. I am an LMSC Top Ten recorder so the title caught my eye.
I don't believe Pacific is doing anything unusual or unfair here.
The Pacific Top Ten recorder is responsible for submitting its Top Ten to USMS at the conclusion of each season. Note they are only responsible for submitting times done at sanctioned/recognized swims within their LMSC. This also includes sending in times from swimmers registered outside Pacific but who competed in meets within Pacific.
The Pacific records are something different. Like Virginia, it sounds like to be eligible for a record you have to be a registered Pacific swimmer but your times can come from sanctioned/recognized meets anywhere (e.g. Nationals). Therefore if you do the time outside the LMSC confines, the onus is on you to submit your time for record consideration.
Now back to the Pacific Top Ten - it sounds like these are only times done within the LMSC. So it doesn't make sense for Mrs. Duggan to do a time in an SPMA meet and submit it for Pacific Top Ten because the time was done outside Pacific. Of course if the time is a record, then it should get submitted.
Jeff Roddin
Potomac Valley LMSC Top Ten recorder
Wow.
That's impressive.
Thanks for all you do there for us (most of which I'm sure I have no idea about!).
I asked Kerry where we were for entries for PAs. He said we were at 7hundred something yesterday. We might make 800.
