In Pacific, we only count times swum in Pacific sanctioned meets for our Top Tens and Records.
I was wondering if your LMSC counts times swum at Nationals, or in other LMSCs, in your LMSC tabulations?
This has always been frustrating for me, especially during LC season, as we usually only have one or two meets. Last year and this year we had one meet, our LC championships! I would love to be able to have Nationals times count, and/or be able to enter meets in other LMSCs and have the times count in Pacific tabulations.
If you respond, could you tell me what LMSC you're in? I'm going to present "my case" at our May meeting.
Thanks : ]
The issue that I am finding, is that often the meet coordinator doesn't bother to submit the times.
I was at a meet in SugarLand in January. They announced that a swimmer broke a WR and that the pool was re-measured...
2 months later none of the swims have shown up in the event ranking database and I can't get any emails to them returned!
I was at the same meet. I did get a response from someone a month or so ago who pointed me to a link for the results. Maybe they don't understand the difference between posting results to the meet and submitting them to USMS??? Maybe if we keep bothering them...
Just remember that "submitting them to USMS" means at least three different things, and they are not necessarily connected:
1. Applying for a USMS record (to Walt Reid) using the proper application form. This is the form that requires the pool to be re-measured (if it has a bulkhead).
2. Submitting the meet to the meet result database. This is what is used for the "Current Event Rankings." Not everyone submits meets to this. It doesn't have to be the meet director, the Top Ten Recorder can submit the results too if s/he has the MM file (presumably s/he does).
3. Submitting times (to Mary Beth Windrath) for USMS Top Ten Consideration. There are 3 deadlines for this, one for each course, and each LMSC should have a Top Ten Recorder who is responsible for doing this for all meets in the LMSC.
Just because a time doesn't appear in Current Event Rankings doesn't mean that #1 hasn't occured or that #3 won't occur. To check if Walt has processed the record, go to
www.usms.org/.../usmsrecords.php
and see if the record appears. Records set since the last publication of the Rule Book will appear in grey.
The issue that I am finding, is that often the meet coordinator doesn't bother to submit the times.
I was at a meet in SugarLand in January. They announced that a swimmer broke a WR and that the pool was re-measured...
2 months later none of the swims have shown up in the event ranking database and I can't get any emails to them returned!
I was at the same meet. I did get a response from someone a month or so ago who pointed me to a link for the results. Maybe they don't understand the difference between posting results to the meet and submitting them to USMS??? Maybe if we keep bothering them...
Just remember that "submitting them to USMS" means at least three different things, and they are not necessarily connected:
1. Applying for a USMS record (to Walt Reid) using the proper application form. This is the form that requires the pool to be re-measured (if it has a bulkhead).
2. Submitting the meet to the meet result database. This is what is used for the "Current Event Rankings." Not everyone submits meets to this. It doesn't have to be the meet director, the Top Ten Recorder can submit the results too if s/he has the MM file (presumably s/he does).
3. Submitting times (to Mary Beth Windrath) for USMS Top Ten Consideration. There are 3 deadlines for this, one for each course, and each LMSC should have a Top Ten Recorder who is responsible for doing this for all meets in the LMSC.
Just because a time doesn't appear in Current Event Rankings doesn't mean that #1 hasn't occured or that #3 won't occur. To check if Walt has processed the record, go to
www.usms.org/.../usmsrecords.php
and see if the record appears. Records set since the last publication of the Rule Book will appear in grey.
