Swimming World's top 12 master swimmers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Former Member
Let the debate begin. I have no problem with the 12 selected, but, 6 and 6 is pretty tough to pick and I have great respect for the process they use. I do think they should try to maybe add the top swim of the year,but, what they have to do, at present, is pretty overwhelming. Some of the runner-ups are pretty awesome. Pull up the Swimming World and download the magazine.What a great honor for all these great swimmers EOM
Does FINA have a Top 10 list at the end of the year? If so, I would be more than happy to take this change into consideration.
The reason why we currently have a WR-based setup is because there is not a single place that calculates the top FINA-sanctioned Masters times of each year in each event in each age division. If I'm missing something, I would love to try to get this system more accurate in a way that works within our available resources.
I've been extremely honest about this. The Top 12 World Masters of the Year is the single-biggest project of the year for me at Swimming World. It trumps the World Swimmers of the Year and the national high school championships by a long shot.
I begin the process as soon as the FINA list comes out Nov. 1, and I don't get completely done with it until February. There are some lulls during that time where I'm not doing something daily with it, but not many.
I enjoy the process and enjoy getting the ballot put together. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if there is a way to make this more accurate considering the resources available to making it happen. If FINA doesn't have a single sponsored list of even top 3s in each event (it has to be every event, not just some age divisions to make certain that the ballot is fair across the board), I'd be very willing to discuss potential volunteer positions to help make this happen. Right now is the best time to start working towards any improvements.
Jason
I am glad I don't have your job and do think overall you do a great job.I think every year there is no question that the people nominated are deserving,just the"how could you leave_____ off" question.If FINAs year ended 12/31(like the calender does) and USAs times(and the international equivalents) were readily recoverable then I think there would be less controversy.When a "sort of Masters Swimmer" finishes 2nd at the Olympics,a Masters swimmer is the oldest swimmer at the Trials,and a 46 year old man misses Trial cuts by .3 sec and none of them makes top 12 it does seem to be a problem(but given the current data available I can see why this happens and I don't blame the judges.I do blame FINA with their Nov year).
Does FINA have a Top 10 list at the end of the year? If so, I would be more than happy to take this change into consideration.
The reason why we currently have a WR-based setup is because there is not a single place that calculates the top FINA-sanctioned Masters times of each year in each event in each age division. If I'm missing something, I would love to try to get this system more accurate in a way that works within our available resources.
I've been extremely honest about this. The Top 12 World Masters of the Year is the single-biggest project of the year for me at Swimming World. It trumps the World Swimmers of the Year and the national high school championships by a long shot.
I begin the process as soon as the FINA list comes out Nov. 1, and I don't get completely done with it until February. There are some lulls during that time where I'm not doing something daily with it, but not many.
I enjoy the process and enjoy getting the ballot put together. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if there is a way to make this more accurate considering the resources available to making it happen. If FINA doesn't have a single sponsored list of even top 3s in each event (it has to be every event, not just some age divisions to make certain that the ballot is fair across the board), I'd be very willing to discuss potential volunteer positions to help make this happen. Right now is the best time to start working towards any improvements.
Jason
I am glad I don't have your job and do think overall you do a great job.I think every year there is no question that the people nominated are deserving,just the"how could you leave_____ off" question.If FINAs year ended 12/31(like the calender does) and USAs times(and the international equivalents) were readily recoverable then I think there would be less controversy.When a "sort of Masters Swimmer" finishes 2nd at the Olympics,a Masters swimmer is the oldest swimmer at the Trials,and a 46 year old man misses Trial cuts by .3 sec and none of them makes top 12 it does seem to be a problem(but given the current data available I can see why this happens and I don't blame the judges.I do blame FINA with their Nov year).