Swimming World's top 12 master swimmers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But FINA still permits non-masters swimmers swimming in USA meets to garner FINA masters rankings. They just draw the line at WRs. This is a silly distinction. If, as Chris notes, swimmers like Dara should be recognized in FINA masters rankings because they are simply the fastest in the world in their age group, why not world records too? Otherwise, it's just inconsistent. And, Frank, you didn't answer. Does FINA recognize LCM times swum by a masters swimmer at USA meets? I know USMS does, but I had heard FINA did not. Obviously, plenty of LCM times swum at such meets have appeared in the FINA rankings. I was just wondering what the actual rule was. FINA does recognize masters swimmers times in USA meets as long as USMS rules and procedures are followed but for Top Ten only and not for FINA World Records. The biggest hurdle in USMS rules of swimmers getting there times to count is the pool measurement and paperwork guidelines. If those are not complete, then USMS does not accept the times and they will not be sent to FINA from USMS. I remember a USA meet in Federal Way where SVDL made an Olympic Trial cut and set a record but the time did not count because the pool was not measured after the session and the bulkheads had been moved after the meet so the ship had sailed so to speak. On the "Application for USMS and/or World Record" on line 8 it asks for the Sanction Number and the LMSC and if those are USA numbers and LSC's, then the World Record does not count but the record will be a USMS record. FINA will accept times from dual sanctioned meets between USMS and USA Swimming, but it must be stated in the Sanction grant agreement between the host and the two organizations and also it must be the meet flyer that is published. Meets like Olympic Trials and the 2009 World Trials in Indy will not have a dual sanction status because that is a selection meet for a National team and you must belong to USA Swimming to swim in those competitions. The dual sanction allows a USMS swimmer to swim in certain but not all USA meets without being a member of that organization.

But FINA still permits non-masters swimmers swimming in USA meets to garner FINA masters rankings. They just draw the line at WRs. This is a silly distinction. If, as Chris notes, swimmers like Dara should be recognized in FINA masters rankings because they are simply the fastest in the world in their age group, why not world records too? Otherwise, it's just inconsistent. And, Frank, you didn't answer. Does FINA recognize LCM times swum by a masters swimmer at USA meets? I know USMS does, but I had heard FINA did not. Obviously, plenty of LCM times swum at such meets have appeared in the FINA rankings. I was just wondering what the actual rule was. FINA does recognize masters swimmers times in USA meets as long as USMS rules and procedures are followed but for Top Ten only and not for FINA World Records. The biggest hurdle in USMS rules of swimmers getting there times to count is the pool measurement and paperwork guidelines. If those are not complete, then USMS does not accept the times and they will not be sent to FINA from USMS. I remember a USA meet in Federal Way where SVDL made an Olympic Trial cut and set a record but the time did not count because the pool was not measured after the session and the bulkheads had been moved after the meet so the ship had sailed so to speak. On the "Application for USMS and/or World Record" on line 8 it asks for the Sanction Number and the LMSC and if those are USA numbers and LSC's, then the World Record does not count but the record will be a USMS record. FINA will accept times from dual sanctioned meets between USMS and USA Swimming, but it must be stated in the Sanction grant agreement between the host and the two organizations and also it must be the meet flyer that is published. Meets like Olympic Trials and the 2009 World Trials in Indy will not have a dual sanction status because that is a selection meet for a National team and you must belong to USA Swimming to swim in those competitions. The dual sanction allows a USMS swimmer to swim in certain but not all USA meets without being a member of that organization.