Swimming World's top 12 master swimmers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Former Member
Let the debate begin. I have no problem with the 12 selected, but, 6 and 6 is pretty tough to pick and I have great respect for the process they use. I do think they should try to maybe add the top swim of the year,but, what they have to do, at present, is pretty overwhelming. Some of the runner-ups are pretty awesome. Pull up the Swimming World and download the magazine.What a great honor for all these great swimmers EOM
It does seem like there should be some kind of requirement that the swimmer participate in a certain number of masters meets in a given year to have their times from USA meet times count in any masters TOP TEN ranking. Lezak and Coughlin and any number of Olympians could have registered to be a masters swimmer in 2008 and I guess could have their times counted in the masters top ten without having done any masters meets.
A friend of mine was listed as number one on the preliminary top ten for 50 LCM free in 2008 until Dara came along and submitted her swims. Dara didn't do any masters meets in 2008. I doubt her coach submitted her times for her as he was getting medical treatment at the time.
If we are ranking swims based on age regardless of affiliation (masters or USA) that is one thing. If we are going to call it "masters" rankings, then it should be kept that way.
elise526:
In 1995, FINA made the requirement that for swims to count for FINA World Records, they must be set in masters sanctioned meets by a member nation of FINA. Prior to this, any swimmer that was registered with USMS could swim in a USA swim meet and turn in the times to count toward FINA World Records without ever swimming in a masters sanctioned meet. This was happening with Olympic caliber swimmers though maybe not on the level of Lezak and Coughlin but with national caliber swimmers.
FINA put a stop to this immediately and told member nation recorders and tabulators to strip anyone of a past record if they did not record the swim in a masters sanctioned competition. I think they went back a year and did that with those swims. So in a sense what your saying is happening at the FINA level. For the USMS level, as long as you are registered with the organization and you follow the rules to get your swims to count, then any swim from any USA sanctioned meet can count for a USMS Record and USMS Top Time and it does not have to be from a masters sanctioned meet.
It does seem like there should be some kind of requirement that the swimmer participate in a certain number of masters meets in a given year to have their times from USA meet times count in any masters TOP TEN ranking. Lezak and Coughlin and any number of Olympians could have registered to be a masters swimmer in 2008 and I guess could have their times counted in the masters top ten without having done any masters meets.
A friend of mine was listed as number one on the preliminary top ten for 50 LCM free in 2008 until Dara came along and submitted her swims. Dara didn't do any masters meets in 2008. I doubt her coach submitted her times for her as he was getting medical treatment at the time.
If we are ranking swims based on age regardless of affiliation (masters or USA) that is one thing. If we are going to call it "masters" rankings, then it should be kept that way.
elise526:
In 1995, FINA made the requirement that for swims to count for FINA World Records, they must be set in masters sanctioned meets by a member nation of FINA. Prior to this, any swimmer that was registered with USMS could swim in a USA swim meet and turn in the times to count toward FINA World Records without ever swimming in a masters sanctioned meet. This was happening with Olympic caliber swimmers though maybe not on the level of Lezak and Coughlin but with national caliber swimmers.
FINA put a stop to this immediately and told member nation recorders and tabulators to strip anyone of a past record if they did not record the swim in a masters sanctioned competition. I think they went back a year and did that with those swims. So in a sense what your saying is happening at the FINA level. For the USMS level, as long as you are registered with the organization and you follow the rules to get your swims to count, then any swim from any USA sanctioned meet can count for a USMS Record and USMS Top Time and it does not have to be from a masters sanctioned meet.