Swimming World's top 12 master swimmers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Let the debate begin. I have no problem with the 12 selected, but, 6 and 6 is pretty tough to pick and I have great respect for the process they use. I do think they should try to maybe add the top swim of the year,but, what they have to do, at present, is pretty overwhelming. Some of the runner-ups are pretty awesome. Pull up the Swimming World and download the magazine.What a great honor for all these great swimmers EOM
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  • Congratulations to all the swimmers selected! And to once again sound like a broken record...I will repeat what I said a year ago. Whatever system is being used is flawed if again this year arguably the best female masters swimmer in the world is not selected something is wrong. In no way am I saying the other women are not incredible athletes and seserving of their awards...but I also doubt many would not deny that Susan Von der Lippes absence is unfortunate. It is unfortunate but Susan's times from the Olympic Trials in the 100 *** of 1:12.12 and the 100 Fly of 1:02.47 were not submitted to USMS for USMS Top Ten and therefore are not in the FINA World Top Ten. The swims broke World Records but FINA will not recognize swims like this because they were not done in a masters meet. So those two swims are basically ignored because of these points. Dara Torres basically had the same problem in her two swims at the Olympic Trials. Her time of :24.25 in the 50 Free and the :53.78 in the 100 Free broke the existing FINA World Records but FINA did not recognize them because they were not performed in a masters meet. There is a difference between Dara and Susan here in that Dara or someone else turned in the proper documentation for both USMS Top Ten and the USMS National Record and she is included in the USMS Long Couse Top Ten and gets credit for the USMS National Record. Her times also appear in the FINA World Top Ten as Number 1 swims because USMS submitted the 2008 Long Course Top Ten list to FINA. Because Susan was not on the 2008 USMS Long Course Top Ten list, those two swims did not make the 2008 FINA World Top Ten as Number 1 swims. Susan's times do not appear in the 2008 USMS Long Course Top Ten and the National Records reflect 1:13.34 and the 1:03.38 from 2006 in the two events mentioned. Since this very important data was not published by USMS or FINA probably had something to do with the system you speak of and the selection process. www.usms.org/.../toptenlist.php
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  • Congratulations to all the swimmers selected! And to once again sound like a broken record...I will repeat what I said a year ago. Whatever system is being used is flawed if again this year arguably the best female masters swimmer in the world is not selected something is wrong. In no way am I saying the other women are not incredible athletes and seserving of their awards...but I also doubt many would not deny that Susan Von der Lippes absence is unfortunate. It is unfortunate but Susan's times from the Olympic Trials in the 100 *** of 1:12.12 and the 100 Fly of 1:02.47 were not submitted to USMS for USMS Top Ten and therefore are not in the FINA World Top Ten. The swims broke World Records but FINA will not recognize swims like this because they were not done in a masters meet. So those two swims are basically ignored because of these points. Dara Torres basically had the same problem in her two swims at the Olympic Trials. Her time of :24.25 in the 50 Free and the :53.78 in the 100 Free broke the existing FINA World Records but FINA did not recognize them because they were not performed in a masters meet. There is a difference between Dara and Susan here in that Dara or someone else turned in the proper documentation for both USMS Top Ten and the USMS National Record and she is included in the USMS Long Couse Top Ten and gets credit for the USMS National Record. Her times also appear in the FINA World Top Ten as Number 1 swims because USMS submitted the 2008 Long Course Top Ten list to FINA. Because Susan was not on the 2008 USMS Long Course Top Ten list, those two swims did not make the 2008 FINA World Top Ten as Number 1 swims. Susan's times do not appear in the 2008 USMS Long Course Top Ten and the National Records reflect 1:13.34 and the 1:03.38 from 2006 in the two events mentioned. Since this very important data was not published by USMS or FINA probably had something to do with the system you speak of and the selection process. www.usms.org/.../toptenlist.php
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