How many guys from other countries does it take to win a National Championship?
Good thing they all attended classes on campus the entire year..... :-)
Makes everyone feel proud to see the American Record holder on the 4th place podium.
Yes, very simple...but colleges are simply not in the business of developing US Olympic talent. That's the USAS's/USOC's job.
Why should a university feel obliged to do their job for them? What is in it for them, other than the mushy feel-good stuff that Mr Neg is talking about?
Give a convincing answer to that to the NCAA, ADs, and university presidents and you may get the cap that you desire.
Being an educator myself, and perhaps foolishly believing that to be the main business of universities, I would love it if the argument were put in those terms.
My cynical side says that any argument that persuasively shows a benefit to the bottom line will work too.
Chris...I think I have said this 3 times now...there is a coalition of the 3 major organizers of swimming in this country who are starting to work together...I think its a good thing. I also think anyone who actually competes in swimming and is a US citizen pretty much agress the pinnacle in our sport is the Olympics and anything the various agencies can do to help support each other in winning more gold medals the better.
Regarding your question as to "why should a university feel obligated to do their job" I have say that seems pretty naive. I don't think there is a University in existence that has had an Olympian of pro athlete attend that doesn't use that as a recruiting tool to students and athletes alike. I'll also leave you with this quotes from NCAA President Myles Brand which was in the same ASCA article I have referenced:
" The job of the University is to take teenagers and turn them into people"
" ten years from now, do you suppose the student will remember his calculus? or will she remember instead, the lessons learned in her sports participation?
" it's ok, it's good,, for the University to support finacially, it's athletic department...we don't realistically expect the athletic departments to self-fund....sports sponsorship on a wide range of experiences for college students is an acceptable part of the university mission because Athletics is in fact, part and parcel of the educational experiance. It's where many lessons are learned in life."
Yes, very simple...but colleges are simply not in the business of developing US Olympic talent. That's the USAS's/USOC's job.
Why should a university feel obliged to do their job for them? What is in it for them, other than the mushy feel-good stuff that Mr Neg is talking about?
Give a convincing answer to that to the NCAA, ADs, and university presidents and you may get the cap that you desire.
Being an educator myself, and perhaps foolishly believing that to be the main business of universities, I would love it if the argument were put in those terms.
My cynical side says that any argument that persuasively shows a benefit to the bottom line will work too.
Chris...I think I have said this 3 times now...there is a coalition of the 3 major organizers of swimming in this country who are starting to work together...I think its a good thing. I also think anyone who actually competes in swimming and is a US citizen pretty much agress the pinnacle in our sport is the Olympics and anything the various agencies can do to help support each other in winning more gold medals the better.
Regarding your question as to "why should a university feel obligated to do their job" I have say that seems pretty naive. I don't think there is a University in existence that has had an Olympian of pro athlete attend that doesn't use that as a recruiting tool to students and athletes alike. I'll also leave you with this quotes from NCAA President Myles Brand which was in the same ASCA article I have referenced:
" The job of the University is to take teenagers and turn them into people"
" ten years from now, do you suppose the student will remember his calculus? or will she remember instead, the lessons learned in her sports participation?
" it's ok, it's good,, for the University to support finacially, it's athletic department...we don't realistically expect the athletic departments to self-fund....sports sponsorship on a wide range of experiences for college students is an acceptable part of the university mission because Athletics is in fact, part and parcel of the educational experiance. It's where many lessons are learned in life."
