Last 150 of my 500 falls off

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I'm new to masters this year and have had two meets since January. The first 500 was 5:50 and the second one was 5:51. I can't hold on to my pace after 350. I'm 49 and am working out 5 days a week. Most days are 3000 yards. Once a week I go 4000 yards. Most of my workouts are 250-500 yard swims, with some 100's on 1:30. I can go 6:10 in the middle of practice without killing myself. Why can't I do better in a meet? In meets my first 100 is 1:03 and at 200 at 2:11. Why the fall off? Any meet nutruition ideas? Workout ideas? Pacing ideas?
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  • Hey Scott, I can have no problem upping the yardage, but at what point do I ease up for nationals train hard then rest a week for nats Are the body suits really a big advantage? YES Do I need the most expensive one to be effective? NO There's many changes in suit rules to come. Read Tip 201 Which Suit Suits you? More On Racing Suits Tip 214 Even More On Racing Suits FINA Releases Information on FINA Bureau Meeting, Approves Speedsuit Restriction Proposal U.S. Masters Swimming’s official interpretation of Swimwear rule 102.14 Bottomline is 03/31/09 was the deadline for manufacturers to submit suits for phase 1 testing, soon FINA will issue a list of APPROVED SUITS, I have no clue what will and what won't be approved. I hope Blue Seventy Nero Comps & Speedo PROs will. effective Jan. 1, 2010 FINA requires a "permeability value" test The non-permeable material can only be used for a maximum 50% of the total surface of the swimsuit for full-body models. For these models, the maximum surface of non-permeable material to be used on the upper and lower part of the swimsuit shall be respectively 25% on each part. Non-permeable material shall be distinguishable. this language in the U.S. Masters Swimming’s official interpretation of Swimwear rule 102.14 suits introduced prior to September 30, 2007, are legal for U.S.M.S. competition leads me to believe the Speedo FAST SKIN II will be safe, not sure when Speedo PROs were released but it think it was after that date. Your best bet could be a hineck speedo pro, I hope blue the blue seventy nero comp makes the phase 1 list but it won't pass the 50% non permeability value test. for training ideas consider following these blogs: Pat Brundage Chris Stevenson My current blog, Ande's Swimming Blog, just know that I'm focusing on 50's & 100's for Nats My My Old swimming blog with workouts from Mar 2005 - Sep 2008 Swim Faster Faster, Ande These are great suggestions and just what I'm looking for. I did go into the last meet without tapering since I really am aiming for nationals. I'm wearing a jammer. Are the body suits really a big advantage? Do I need the most expensive one to be effective? I can have no problem upping the yardage, but at what point do I ease up for nationals. I'm really stoked about swimming and can't wait for my first national experience! Unfortunately I swim on my own. We don't have a competitive master program in Sioux City and no one I swim with can push me. You guys are now my coach. I want to thank Jeff for recommending a place to swim while I'm in DC. I got in some yardage and felt great. I did a broken 500 for the first time and thought it was a great set. Thanks again everyone! Scott 712-253-9701 cell
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  • Hey Scott, I can have no problem upping the yardage, but at what point do I ease up for nationals train hard then rest a week for nats Are the body suits really a big advantage? YES Do I need the most expensive one to be effective? NO There's many changes in suit rules to come. Read Tip 201 Which Suit Suits you? More On Racing Suits Tip 214 Even More On Racing Suits FINA Releases Information on FINA Bureau Meeting, Approves Speedsuit Restriction Proposal U.S. Masters Swimming’s official interpretation of Swimwear rule 102.14 Bottomline is 03/31/09 was the deadline for manufacturers to submit suits for phase 1 testing, soon FINA will issue a list of APPROVED SUITS, I have no clue what will and what won't be approved. I hope Blue Seventy Nero Comps & Speedo PROs will. effective Jan. 1, 2010 FINA requires a "permeability value" test The non-permeable material can only be used for a maximum 50% of the total surface of the swimsuit for full-body models. For these models, the maximum surface of non-permeable material to be used on the upper and lower part of the swimsuit shall be respectively 25% on each part. Non-permeable material shall be distinguishable. this language in the U.S. Masters Swimming’s official interpretation of Swimwear rule 102.14 suits introduced prior to September 30, 2007, are legal for U.S.M.S. competition leads me to believe the Speedo FAST SKIN II will be safe, not sure when Speedo PROs were released but it think it was after that date. Your best bet could be a hineck speedo pro, I hope blue the blue seventy nero comp makes the phase 1 list but it won't pass the 50% non permeability value test. for training ideas consider following these blogs: Pat Brundage Chris Stevenson My current blog, Ande's Swimming Blog, just know that I'm focusing on 50's & 100's for Nats My My Old swimming blog with workouts from Mar 2005 - Sep 2008 Swim Faster Faster, Ande These are great suggestions and just what I'm looking for. I did go into the last meet without tapering since I really am aiming for nationals. I'm wearing a jammer. Are the body suits really a big advantage? Do I need the most expensive one to be effective? I can have no problem upping the yardage, but at what point do I ease up for nationals. I'm really stoked about swimming and can't wait for my first national experience! Unfortunately I swim on my own. We don't have a competitive master program in Sioux City and no one I swim with can push me. You guys are now my coach. I want to thank Jeff for recommending a place to swim while I'm in DC. I got in some yardage and felt great. I did a broken 500 for the first time and thought it was a great set. Thanks again everyone! Scott 712-253-9701 cell
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