Sign me up!
I am the poster man-child for flabby and somewhat-lazy (though I prefer to medicalize the latter with claims of EDS barely held in check by modafinil.)
Johnny Storm, aka, the Human Torch in Marvel Comics' Fantastic Four, used to have a catch phrase: Flame On! which he would spiritedly cry out right before igniting.
Perhaps, armed with my new borrowed and arguably slightly oversized B70 at Colony Zones this year, you will hear a similar catch phrase being emitted from whatever block I have waddled my way up upon: Flab On!
I shall cry out this, in both pride and hope, before beginning a half-assed effort in the pool, en route, perchance, to a new PR in every lackadaisical swim I attempt!
PS to Leslie: It seens you have been taking a certain refuge in the notion that B70s hope most those who are big and fat, conferring relatively less advantage to, say, perfectly chiseled weight-lifting minxes who top out at 5' 4". This may be true, but I remain far from convinced. Theoretically, at least, once could argue precisely the opposite: that smaller, lighter swimmers have higher surface to volume ratios than us tub 'o lard bowling balls. Since the suit smooths the surface and (in the case of the B70, I am convinced, if not some of the others) adds float, then there is reason to believe you magnificent might-mites might indeed benefit more.
Regardless, now that I have joined the B70 Flabulous Bandwagon, in my mind if not yet in actual practice (still awaiting BillS's reply re: shipping info), I don't care how much it helps anybody else.
I just want it to help me, me, me!
On my way out of town with the kiddos for spring break (watch this space for Brats Gone Wild!), but I'll try and PM you info today if I can. I still have the original 3x5x7 box B70 used to UPS me the replacement suit. I think you can just go git yerself a prepaid shipping label at your local UPS store (or maybe just arrange for it to be here at my Hood River UPS store), and I can slap it on the box and send it your way on the 20th. Probably want to do second day if not prohibitively expensive to ensure it gets there on time. FedEx may work as well, but I'm not sure we have a shipping facility here. US Mail may well be bankrupt and/or out of biz by then at the rate the Fed is printing money.
I'm 6'2" and a reasonably flabby 195, so my size 30's flab containment/compression may not be what it should for relatively svelte you. But I'm still betting you will see significant time drops. Please try a breaststroke event; I'd like some empirical confirmation of my belief that the suit is most effective in that, The Most Elegant and Manly of All Strokes.
What the tech suits probably do for the flabbier swimmer is keep the flab from jiggling so much and creating turbulence. You get more laminar flow along the surface.
No chance there's much laminar flow even around the slimmest swimmer.
On my way out of town with the kiddos for spring break (watch this space for Brats Gone Wild!), but I'll try and PM you info today if I can. I still have the original 3x5x7 box B70 used to UPS me the replacement suit. I think you can just go git yerself a prepaid shipping label at your local UPS store (or maybe just arrange for it to be here at my Hood River UPS store), and I can slap it on the box and send it your way on the 20th. Probably want to do second day if not prohibitively expensive to ensure it gets there on time. FedEx may work as well, but I'm not sure we have a shipping facility here. US Mail may well be bankrupt and/or out of biz by then at the rate the Fed is printing money.
I'm 6'2" and a reasonably flabby 195, so my size 30's flab containment/compression may not be what it should for relatively svelte you. But I'm still betting you will see significant time drops. Please try a breaststroke event; I'd like some empirical confirmation of my belief that the suit is most effective in that, The Most Elegant and Manly of All Strokes.
Once again, and in a very public way, as opposed to the semi-public (and largely avoided) forum of my vlog site, let me officially nominate BillS as USMS Sportsman of the Year for his contributions to Jim's Junk Science Experiment, which I am pretty sure will put to rest for all time the question of whether or not a borrowed, slightly oversized B70 will help me swim faster.
And by extension, people like me, with similar bosom size and body contours, like Leslie and Creampuff.
Thanks, Bill!
I agree that breaststroke is the most elegant and manly of all strokes, which finally explains why I am so wretchedly incompetent at it.
I am hoping that your B70 allows me to stave off the final solution for masters swimming time drops, a new surgical procedure I read about that has been pioneered in North Korea and which I will soon be vlogging about, please stay tuned, suit lovers and suit haters, Wookies and Dolphin 2s and your various acolytes and minions alike!
The one thing I think we can all agree on:
BillS, USMS Man of the Century
The fact that I am flabbier than Mr. Thornton is clearly established in our foregoing dialog, and our little junk science experiment will not shed any light on that question. I assume, perhaps foolishly, but hopefully nonetheless, that Mr. Thornton will refrain from making public comments about how loosely the suit fits him, and will be able to resist using words like "baggy", "huge", "elephant-skin", or "Did Paul-freaking-Smith send me his suit instead as a joke?"
I anxiously await the results, however, to see what they may tend to show on the issue of which of us is the lazier, for it is difficult, if not impossible, to imagine anyone lazier than I.
But why do I just feel like I and the rest of my fellow masters swimmers were called "flabby and lazy?!" :afraid:
eh, it's all relative. "Fit" at my age, and working out a lot compared to most professionals, might well seem a little flabby or lazy at half my age in a D1 swim program. It's not too surprising that a college coach thinks his or her swimmers should not be in quite as good a position as people who could be their mothers to benefit from compression suits (although it is a little surprising that one would say so in print).
The phrase "flabby, lazier swimmers" bugs me enormously. What coach said that? Flabby does not imply lazy at all, especially among elite swimmers. Some people just carry more body fat.
They did not attribute that line to any particular coach which makes you wonder whether anyone really said it. I have yet to see an elite swimmer that is flabby and lazy.
Phil Whitten's pole vaulting analogy seems to be overstating the benefit to me.
Also, how do Georgia and Minnesota struggle to get tech suits, but everyone apparently in Division III has no troubles getting tech suits such that the small college in Iowa can't qualify anyone for nationals? Also, wouldn't Michigan crush Penn State and Northwestern in a duel meet even if Michigan wore traditional suits and PSU and Northwestern wore tech suits?
Is it just me or is the WSJ slowly evolving into the USA Today?
Tim
Geek, look, he doesn't belong to a team. Otherwise, he would have told you by now. Second, there is no use in fighting with a fool. He doesn't comprend anything EXPERIENCED swimmers on this thread have told him about the suits, training, etc. The little boy lives in his own world and will not admit that he knows nothing about the competitive side of the sport. Maybe he can noodle better than the rest of us but that's about it.
Hey thewookiee
From your posts, you don't seem to know the difference between experienced competitive swimming and experienced competitive spending on swimsuits.
It looks like I have offended the Gods Of Suit Technology once again and the grumbling of pious thunder from the devine overhead tells me it's time to take cover before I get stricken by a bolt from the blue. :bitching:
Dolphin 2
