All the other transitions seem pretty straight-forward to me, and I think I get off the wall pretty quickly on those, but for some reason I feel like I'm hanging on the wall too long on the back-to-*** and I just know I'm doing something wrong.
Should I be facing the opposite wall when i let go of the wall? or is facing the side ok?
Anyone have a trick or a technique for getting feet on the wall quickly?
Any help or advice you all can give is greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys!
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Solar...
I am both an IM swimmer and a coach. me too, outdated coach that is...
#1 - There are very few masters swimmers willing to practice enough to perfect this back to *** IM flip-turn to make it better than a great open turn. agreed of course.
#2 - A swimmer needs "big air" on this turn to perform a great breaststroke underwater pull and breakout. Generally speaking I believe most swimmers have a better opportunity to get that big breath on the open turn. Well, the leg before this long underwater glide is backstroke right? One possible reason for the apparent popularity of this turn is that one has a whole lot of time to "over breathe" during back leg prior to flip. Therefore I don't see this oxygen dept thing as being a real factor. Of course, if the leg prior the flip any other stroke then that would be a different story...
#3 - Rules have changed. A swimmer must clearly touch the wall with their hand on this flip-turn. that would be my number one concern. both theory and practical based evidence seem to be clear on that the hand must touch the wall quite deep into the water for the flip to work.
fairly clear here
YouTube - IM - Sievinen back-*** turn
executed by Phelps
YouTube - IM - Phelps back-*** turn
And then seems to be fairly shallow here (but it might be an illusion)
YouTube - Adam Mania's Back to *** turn
now wait a minute. Are #1 and #3 the same turn??? (gees I am having a hard time understanding this turn, even if I started practicing it few weeks ago already).
Solar...
I am both an IM swimmer and a coach. me too, outdated coach that is...
#1 - There are very few masters swimmers willing to practice enough to perfect this back to *** IM flip-turn to make it better than a great open turn. agreed of course.
#2 - A swimmer needs "big air" on this turn to perform a great breaststroke underwater pull and breakout. Generally speaking I believe most swimmers have a better opportunity to get that big breath on the open turn. Well, the leg before this long underwater glide is backstroke right? One possible reason for the apparent popularity of this turn is that one has a whole lot of time to "over breathe" during back leg prior to flip. Therefore I don't see this oxygen dept thing as being a real factor. Of course, if the leg prior the flip any other stroke then that would be a different story...
#3 - Rules have changed. A swimmer must clearly touch the wall with their hand on this flip-turn. that would be my number one concern. both theory and practical based evidence seem to be clear on that the hand must touch the wall quite deep into the water for the flip to work.
fairly clear here
YouTube - IM - Sievinen back-*** turn
executed by Phelps
YouTube - IM - Phelps back-*** turn
And then seems to be fairly shallow here (but it might be an illusion)
YouTube - Adam Mania's Back to *** turn
now wait a minute. Are #1 and #3 the same turn??? (gees I am having a hard time understanding this turn, even if I started practicing it few weeks ago already).
