Hard sets with short rest intervals have the same issue, after a while your technique starts to decrease, and your tired body is not responding so well.
I wonder if is worth it to scarify technique for endurance or endurance for technique.
The obvious answer: “well, it depends on where you are and your goals”. Please don’t
I think crazy hard endurance with bad technique occasionally is a very good thing, but if you always do it that way you will eventually get use to bad technique, but if you concentrate too much on technique while you suppose to go very fast, you won’t get that extra for muscle.
For example, let’s say this set must be done with very short rest
12 x 25 fly
2 x 200 IM
3 x 100 ***
2 x 200 IM
4 x 75 back
2 x200 IM
My point, Is really hard to keep good technique on those second 200 IMs, but if I’m looking for endurance you have to go fast...
What do you think about adding easy swims?
12 x 25 fly
100 EZ
2 x 200 IM
100 EZ
3 x 100 ***
100 EZ
2 x 200 IM
100 EZ
4 x 75 back
100 EZ
2 x200 IM
It would be much faster (speed), better technique, but…not so “hard” (I’m thinking of endurance), like adding more rest.
You can work on technique or endurance any time, but the key thing while racing is to maintain good technique at high speed during a long period.
How do you deal with endurance vs technique?
I totally agree. For this reason:
I rarely do a lot of fly in workouts full stroke.
You can swim lots of fly, but you have to give yourself enough rest that you don't break down, and you have to be willing to call it a day if you do break down. One time I started swimming 50 flys on 1:00 with no defined end point. I swam most of them in 33 seconds, so my rest-to-swim ratio was almost 1:1. By the 24th 50 I had started breaking down so I stopped. (Hey that's 1200 fly, not a shabby number!) By that time I was also a bit bored...
In recent months I've focused on speed over distance, but I've also banned sets of 25's.* For example, today my fly set was 4x75 on 2:00. I went 49, 48, 47-mid, 47-flat. That's only 300 fly but it's faster, and descending is cool. :banana:
Side note here, in the spirit of not stomping on Ande's thread any more: to keep descending, I had to do almost everything right for the whole 4th 75:
I couldn't just rely on my legs; I had to use my hips to generate my biggest kicks. And every single kick had to be big. This is the locomotive in fly! **
EVF - I tried to position my elbows just below the surface, and get them to 90 degrees before each pull (or what feels like 90 degrees to me)
when those two things actually happen correctly, it's an alien sensation - it feels like there's a slingshot shooting me through the water! It is freakin exhausting though
*unless the 25's are part of a progression, e.g. 3x75, 3x50, 3x25. Sets like 20x25 are banned!
**please note that I did not use that word that rhymes with "score" since after all, there isn't even agreement on this forum about what it is, much less what it does :argue:. "score"..."toxic"..."scion"...:bolt:
I totally agree. For this reason:
I rarely do a lot of fly in workouts full stroke.
You can swim lots of fly, but you have to give yourself enough rest that you don't break down, and you have to be willing to call it a day if you do break down. One time I started swimming 50 flys on 1:00 with no defined end point. I swam most of them in 33 seconds, so my rest-to-swim ratio was almost 1:1. By the 24th 50 I had started breaking down so I stopped. (Hey that's 1200 fly, not a shabby number!) By that time I was also a bit bored...
In recent months I've focused on speed over distance, but I've also banned sets of 25's.* For example, today my fly set was 4x75 on 2:00. I went 49, 48, 47-mid, 47-flat. That's only 300 fly but it's faster, and descending is cool. :banana:
Side note here, in the spirit of not stomping on Ande's thread any more: to keep descending, I had to do almost everything right for the whole 4th 75:
I couldn't just rely on my legs; I had to use my hips to generate my biggest kicks. And every single kick had to be big. This is the locomotive in fly! **
EVF - I tried to position my elbows just below the surface, and get them to 90 degrees before each pull (or what feels like 90 degrees to me)
when those two things actually happen correctly, it's an alien sensation - it feels like there's a slingshot shooting me through the water! It is freakin exhausting though
*unless the 25's are part of a progression, e.g. 3x75, 3x50, 3x25. Sets like 20x25 are banned!
**please note that I did not use that word that rhymes with "score" since after all, there isn't even agreement on this forum about what it is, much less what it does :argue:. "score"..."toxic"..."scion"...:bolt:
