I started coaching a 15 years old boy, who has not so good but decent times, I want him to be able to break at least one of his “age-group” records from our club.
Since I write his workouts, I wonder which record might be the closest one to shoot for.
Event SCM........ His time...........club´s record
50 free............30"41............25"52
100 free.......... 1'05"............ 56"75
200 free......... 2´26"16......... 2´10"20
400 free......... 05'02''68......... 4'36"95
800 free.......... 11'17"04......... 10'12"91
50 *** ..........40''23.............33"06
50 back ...........36"09 .............29"52
100 back......... 1'18"54 ..........1'03"66
200 back .........2´43"35......... 2'17"56
100 IM............ 01'15''96......... 1'04"22
200 IM............ 2'46"24........... 2'21"56
400 IM ............5´54"16.......... 5'00"03
I think I will try to make him focus on freestyle, his closest times to the record (very far BTW) seems to be the 200 free and 400 free events
What do you think?
I also want to know if his times have a "normal" relation; I mean, he probably can go faster in the 800 free from his 400 free time. And faster 200 IM from his 100 IM time.
Im use to make workouts for myself but I know how far I can push myself...
This is new for me, so Im trying to test him, 100's reps, crazy long sets, crazy hard sets, and Im looking forward to his "never done" 7000 meter workout :angel:. He seems to enjoy challenge, I need some feedback about his times and tips for training 15 years olds.
thanks
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We talk a lot about swimming and his goals, but the idea of breaking one of his age group records is probably my own selfish challenge as a new coach.
He actually came up to me because he saw me training hard in the pool several times, and told me he didn’t like his coach’s way of training. I showed him what I do, and if he wanted to train hard, I could help him. Therefore, he left the club’s team 2 weeks ago, and seems serious about getting better.
The point is, I want him to really improve, and I won’t let him down. I really wish I had a coach that pushed me to the limit when I was 15, and really put time and effort thinking about training structure. I have free time while working there, so I can do it.
You guys are probably right, I might need to find lower goals for him first, (since he is far away from those times). I probably watched MP too many times saying “shoot for the stars” haha.
However, I do have to disagree on something, 15 years old guys most of the time have no idea what they really want, because they still looking for their identity, sometimes they need strict guidance to get on their path.
For the next months, we agreed that his 100 free has to go down (as one suggested 1:00), It will be good to mix workouts with distance and broken swims to improve 200/400/800 free. I also think he has some potential as an IMer so he will keep doing some IM work, and he is definitely not a sprinter.
I don’t think I’m going to discuss with him about his workouts, Im just going to see how he responds in the water, and go from there.
thanks
We talk a lot about swimming and his goals, but the idea of breaking one of his age group records is probably my own selfish challenge as a new coach.
He actually came up to me because he saw me training hard in the pool several times, and told me he didn’t like his coach’s way of training. I showed him what I do, and if he wanted to train hard, I could help him. Therefore, he left the club’s team 2 weeks ago, and seems serious about getting better.
The point is, I want him to really improve, and I won’t let him down. I really wish I had a coach that pushed me to the limit when I was 15, and really put time and effort thinking about training structure. I have free time while working there, so I can do it.
You guys are probably right, I might need to find lower goals for him first, (since he is far away from those times). I probably watched MP too many times saying “shoot for the stars” haha.
However, I do have to disagree on something, 15 years old guys most of the time have no idea what they really want, because they still looking for their identity, sometimes they need strict guidance to get on their path.
For the next months, we agreed that his 100 free has to go down (as one suggested 1:00), It will be good to mix workouts with distance and broken swims to improve 200/400/800 free. I also think he has some potential as an IMer so he will keep doing some IM work, and he is definitely not a sprinter.
I don’t think I’m going to discuss with him about his workouts, Im just going to see how he responds in the water, and go from there.
thanks
