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Hofffam, pwolf66, rtodd and all - thank you for the observations. I am working on my kick now; it burns my quads, there was some actual next day soreness (DOMS??) from kicking (and not much kicking at that)!! These latest videos were taken with an Aiptek vga recorder, edited in Moviemaker and saved at whatever it called high resolution. Here is my niece, an aspiring high school swimmer: As usual, any comments are appreciated. Thanks in advance YouTube - JFly09 YouTube - Jfree09a YouTube - Jfree09b

Santa got me an underwater camera. I used a suction cup monopod to hold it in position at the end of the lane: YouTube- sp122809_01.wmvYouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

Thanks qbrain. It is amazing the difference between the way it feels and what actually I'm doing. This was supposed to be EVF, it is nothing of the sort. Oh well, back to the laboratory. Cheers! Worse yet the supposedly tight kick I have been working on is way wide. Uggggh.

HI Steve, this thread Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible! - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums may help add propulsion to your kick if you give it a try. I got to get one of thos suction cups for my underwater camera.

Steve, You are a paddle boat, this is bad. Your pivot point is your shoulder and you just rotate there. Try grabbing the water ASAP, and pulling yourself past that point. Get your palm facing straight back as soon as possible and trying to pull yourself past that point in a straight line. When your pull stops being as effective, let go and repeat. You will have to bend at the elbow but not at the wrist to accomplish this. Paddle boat: your hand/paddle goes in a circle. On the way down, it provides lift, but no forward propulsion. The middle part provides all the propulsion, but it could be more efficient if you would bend your elbow a little and press back in a straight line. The end of your stroke you are pulling yourself underwater until you let go. This last part is just slowing you down. Grab some paddles larger than your hands and try the same exercise. Take the least number of strokes possible per 25 or 50. Try to get close to 10 with paddles, it should be very doable with paddles. Your hands have a lot of bubbles on entry. Enter with minimal bubbles, then get rid of the few you have left before pulling. The key is to enter the hand smoothly. Air is highly compressible, so pulling against bubbles is not as effective as pulling against clear water. Your body position... needs work. Get your hips up. This will allow you to glide further, and expend less energy accelerating and maintaining speed. There are two components to help you accomplish this. Adjust the arch of your back should be the first step, because it will make the largest difference. The second step is to adjust your head position. Currently your head position changes angle too much. You want to point your eyes at the bottom of the pool directly below you, and when you breathe, your head needs to swivel in that plane. Your head is moving in two axises right now, and that look forward while you breathe is causing your hips to drop. EVF, or bending your elbow to catch the water sooner, bubble free entry and a flattened back to bring up the hips are all things that can be corrected pretty quick. Pick one, work on it for 1/3rd of a practice and move onto the next. Perfecting them will take time, but mastering the basics will be quick. You should see an effect in your DPS immediately. When you get all three working at the same time, you will feel like a rocket cruising down the pool with no effort.

This is frustating!!! Some from today: YouTube- sp12290902.wmv Bottom of pool: YouTube- sp122909bot02.wmv YouTube- sp122909bot01.wmv The camera is a Pentax Optio W80 Edited with Windows Movie Maker, saved resolution was "High quality video (large).

Here's the monopod at Best Buy: www.bestbuy.com/.../8345622.p It will stick to smooth surfaces like the tile cross at the end of the lane but not textured concrete.

I'm definately not at a level for advice, but: Lift your elbows (evf). Your upper arms are actually hitting water face-on at mid-stroke, slowing you down. Your torso seems to curve in a "C" shape as your right hand begins to catch. Somethings causing your right hip to drop down. Kick too wide. You can barely see thorpe's feet when viewed head-on. Do an all-out 25 kick to learn the legs how to kick fast. Keep the bum up and experiment with chin closer to chest to keep streamlined Something I admire is the catch though, no dead spots or pauses. You also use more of a kayak approach. Sprinter? How many mexapixels is that camera?

Yes that's cool, but what camera is it? Here's he monopod at Best Buy: www.bestbuy.com/.../8345622.p It will stick to smooth surfaces like the tile cross at the end of the lane but not texturd concrete.

YouTube- Great freestyle swimming tip More body roll, hold that extension briefly, higher elbow. When you use your snorkle, you can slow down your stroke since you don't have to worry about air. Concentrate on extension and the correct body roll and high elbow.