Did you break 1:50 in the 200yd fr as a Master's swimmer?
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I would really like to hear if you have broken 1:50 for the first time as a USMS swimmer. What level of training got you there?
I certainly want to hear from anyone who is going fast in the 200.
A little background: I only swam club for two years in HS, and outside of masters, only swam competitively for 3 years total. My best 200yd free time was a 1:50.0x. I am in my early 30s so I think setting PRs are still within easy reach. The season leading up to that time, I was averaging 65k/week iirc.
The Master's team I train with works out 3 times a week, 4-5k/workout, the average being closer to 4k. This is the only team that it is realistic for me to train with at this time.
We are getting a new pool in 2012, and until then I do not believe it is realistic to train with the kids.
There are two other pools in the area that do not have teams that train at them that I can workout on my own at.
It is very realistic that I can work with my MS coach to customize my workouts.
I have gone 2:10 from a push in practice, but I certainly couldn't go 3x200 on 2:10 right now. I am afraid my SCM 200 time actually converts slower than that, so I don't have a good recent race pace time to share.
Given that small book of information: Am I getting enough yardage, and I just need to focus my training on my goal, or do I need to increase yardage and workouts? To what level was successful for you?
If the consensus is a need for significantly more yardage and workouts, I will use this season to ramp up and solve logistics.
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- what is your current 50 or 100 time ?
- you yardage seems fine, but you may need to add 1-2 workouts a week. 3 times may not be enough
- your goal in workouts is to be able to do 2-5x200 broken in your race time. You should do this set about when you are 6 weeks out for about 4 weeks. There are many versions of broken swims - but in my experience for the 200, you can practice with 10 sec break every 50 (or 75) - but the closest to your actual time is just one break at the 100 for 10-15 sec.
- so think now - what do you need to do in order to be able to swim 4x200 broken on a 8-10 min interval going sub 1:50s ?
Thanks ehoch, those are great questions.
My Nov. 50y fr time is 25.11, converted from SCM. Unshaved, untapered after about 3 months of regular training. I accidentally got scratched from the 100, so I don't have a current time. That time is 2 seconds off where it needs to be for my numbers to make sense in breaking 1:50.
I am working on adding two workouts a week, similar yardage. This will be on my own, since the team only practices 3/week.
To swim a 200 in 1:50, I need to swim a 50 ez off the blocks in 25 mid, and swim a 50 from a push in 27 low consistantly over the course of a sprint set. Probably need to bring my practice pace down to 1:10 and actually be able to keep up on kick sets.
Six weeks out puts me in mid Feb to start broken 200 training for Zones.
Fun times ahead.
- what is your current 50 or 100 time ?
- you yardage seems fine, but you may need to add 1-2 workouts a week. 3 times may not be enough
- your goal in workouts is to be able to do 2-5x200 broken in your race time. You should do this set about when you are 6 weeks out for about 4 weeks. There are many versions of broken swims - but in my experience for the 200, you can practice with 10 sec break every 50 (or 75) - but the closest to your actual time is just one break at the 100 for 10-15 sec.
- so think now - what do you need to do in order to be able to swim 4x200 broken on a 8-10 min interval going sub 1:50s ?
Thanks ehoch, those are great questions.
My Nov. 50y fr time is 25.11, converted from SCM. Unshaved, untapered after about 3 months of regular training. I accidentally got scratched from the 100, so I don't have a current time. That time is 2 seconds off where it needs to be for my numbers to make sense in breaking 1:50.
I am working on adding two workouts a week, similar yardage. This will be on my own, since the team only practices 3/week.
To swim a 200 in 1:50, I need to swim a 50 ez off the blocks in 25 mid, and swim a 50 from a push in 27 low consistantly over the course of a sprint set. Probably need to bring my practice pace down to 1:10 and actually be able to keep up on kick sets.
Six weeks out puts me in mid Feb to start broken 200 training for Zones.
Fun times ahead.
