I would love to see what kind of yardage some of you are doing out there. Just ball park numbers. I realize there is much more to swimming than how many yards one does, and training for different events entails differences in yardages, but I would still like to see what everyone is doing so I can know where I fall within the "norm". Also, if anyone knows, I would like to know what some of the masters All American's do as far as yardage. I see times for Jeff Commins in the *** and IM events and wonder how much he must train.
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Patrick,
Looks like we're on the same training plan...at least for engine building. At some point in the season, I'll drop yardage, getting extra rest, and focus more on speed while maintaining the base since I'm a sprinter - no 400 IMs, 500 frees in my future:bow:
But I'll say this, I think you do have to put in a decent amount of yardage in "high endurance" (EN3) mode at some point, e.g., 8-10x200 gut buster sets on short rest (15-20 seconds) -- or something similar.
My observation is that it is on the back half of these long sets where I give myself the chance to make the most progress and where I really feel training adaptations kick in.
I can't tell you the number of times I approach the half way point of one of those kind of sets thinking I'm not gonna make it, and out of the blue, I find another gear and can really descend it.
Ever felt that in your training?
Mark
...Like everything, there are "diminishing returns" on incremental yardage. I believe that I can continue to get faster this year by averaging 20K during my peak periods. I do supplement this with weights, core work and the occasional lunacy of running.
If I had more time to train, I think to really reach my (age adjusted) potential in my two target events (400 IM, 500 free), I would need to do:
5 to 6 swimming workouts a week, totally 25K to 30K with primary emphasis on technique and quality
3 full body weight lifting sessions per week
2 to 3 sessions of core work (e.g., strictly core, Pilates, yoga or some fusion thereof)
Patrick,
Looks like we're on the same training plan...at least for engine building. At some point in the season, I'll drop yardage, getting extra rest, and focus more on speed while maintaining the base since I'm a sprinter - no 400 IMs, 500 frees in my future:bow:
But I'll say this, I think you do have to put in a decent amount of yardage in "high endurance" (EN3) mode at some point, e.g., 8-10x200 gut buster sets on short rest (15-20 seconds) -- or something similar.
My observation is that it is on the back half of these long sets where I give myself the chance to make the most progress and where I really feel training adaptations kick in.
I can't tell you the number of times I approach the half way point of one of those kind of sets thinking I'm not gonna make it, and out of the blue, I find another gear and can really descend it.
Ever felt that in your training?
Mark
...Like everything, there are "diminishing returns" on incremental yardage. I believe that I can continue to get faster this year by averaging 20K during my peak periods. I do supplement this with weights, core work and the occasional lunacy of running.
If I had more time to train, I think to really reach my (age adjusted) potential in my two target events (400 IM, 500 free), I would need to do:
5 to 6 swimming workouts a week, totally 25K to 30K with primary emphasis on technique and quality
3 full body weight lifting sessions per week
2 to 3 sessions of core work (e.g., strictly core, Pilates, yoga or some fusion thereof)
