For all of you who know Leslie the Fortress Livingston, this should help you know her better.
For all of you who don't know Leslie the Fortress Livingston, prepare for the thrill ride get-to-know-Leslie event of the year.
A little background: Leslie is the 4th woman in history in the 45-49 year age group to beat 30 seconds in the 50 SCM butterfly.
She did this at age 47, and it is possible that she is actually the FIRST woman in history this old to break 30 at the age (assuming the previous 3 were 45 or 46.)
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This small film will help you understand all that goes into becoming an extraordinary human being/swimmer. Oh, and there's a little about Leslie in this, too.
Just joking. It's all about Leslie. With some guest appearances by Paul Wolf, Julie "Mulie" Oplinger, Jeff "the Barbarian" Roddin, and Jim Thornton as "the narrator."
Please enjoy before Leslie forces Jim Matysek to take this down.
It's not so much to find in the rulebook where it disallows the swim. It's actually the converse: the rulebook defines what is an eligible swim - it does not list all the swims that don't count. Here is one last try at a more direct explanation of my own interpretation of the rulebook: in order for a swim to "count" it must be from a sanctioned/recognized event. Period. The rulebook goes on to explain what constitutes a sanctioned/recognized swim. The time trial was not done in a meet (the zone meet announcement did not include a 50 fly at the end of the meet) and therefore does not meet the definition of an eligible swim.
Jeff:
I found the section in the 2008 USMS Rulebook on page 8 under 102.10.1 in A where it reads:
"All short course meter events, long course meter events and national championships shall be conducted on a timed-final basis. Other short course yards events may be conducted on a timed-final basis or other basis e.g., trials/finals).
To me this means that time trials are not permitted in USMS short course meters and USMS long course meter sanctioned meets. However, in short course yards they can be permitted as long as the events in the time trials are sanctioned by the LMSC for the meet host in the application for Sanction.
This rule comes from the FINA Rule Book in MSW in 3.4 where it reads "All Masters events shall be conducted on a timed final basis." Again this to me means that events are swam in the sanctioned meet as final swims and they are reflected in the results as such. There is no mention of time trials in the FINA Rule book because they don't allow it and every event is a timed final from the meet events approved for sanction in the meet flyer and program.
FINA does allow time trials for Swimming and not for Masters and this is spelled out in the FINA Rule Book in SW 12.4 and it states that a competition of an individual against time, held in public and announced publicly by advertisement at least three days before the attempt is to be made. In an event of an individual race against time being sanctioned by a Member, as a time trial during a competition, then an advertisement at least three (3) days before the attempt is to be made shall not be necessary.
The key is that it MUST be sanctioned by a Member for it to count and if not it must be advertised at least 3 days prior to the trial. So for purposes of FINA, even for Swimming, a time trial granted in this fashion would not count as an official time for records and top ten.
It's not so much to find in the rulebook where it disallows the swim. It's actually the converse: the rulebook defines what is an eligible swim - it does not list all the swims that don't count. Here is one last try at a more direct explanation of my own interpretation of the rulebook: in order for a swim to "count" it must be from a sanctioned/recognized event. Period. The rulebook goes on to explain what constitutes a sanctioned/recognized swim. The time trial was not done in a meet (the zone meet announcement did not include a 50 fly at the end of the meet) and therefore does not meet the definition of an eligible swim.
Jeff:
I found the section in the 2008 USMS Rulebook on page 8 under 102.10.1 in A where it reads:
"All short course meter events, long course meter events and national championships shall be conducted on a timed-final basis. Other short course yards events may be conducted on a timed-final basis or other basis e.g., trials/finals).
To me this means that time trials are not permitted in USMS short course meters and USMS long course meter sanctioned meets. However, in short course yards they can be permitted as long as the events in the time trials are sanctioned by the LMSC for the meet host in the application for Sanction.
This rule comes from the FINA Rule Book in MSW in 3.4 where it reads "All Masters events shall be conducted on a timed final basis." Again this to me means that events are swam in the sanctioned meet as final swims and they are reflected in the results as such. There is no mention of time trials in the FINA Rule book because they don't allow it and every event is a timed final from the meet events approved for sanction in the meet flyer and program.
FINA does allow time trials for Swimming and not for Masters and this is spelled out in the FINA Rule Book in SW 12.4 and it states that a competition of an individual against time, held in public and announced publicly by advertisement at least three days before the attempt is to be made. In an event of an individual race against time being sanctioned by a Member, as a time trial during a competition, then an advertisement at least three (3) days before the attempt is to be made shall not be necessary.
The key is that it MUST be sanctioned by a Member for it to count and if not it must be advertised at least 3 days prior to the trial. So for purposes of FINA, even for Swimming, a time trial granted in this fashion would not count as an official time for records and top ten.
