For all of you who know Leslie the Fortress Livingston, this should help you know her better.
For all of you who don't know Leslie the Fortress Livingston, prepare for the thrill ride get-to-know-Leslie event of the year.
A little background: Leslie is the 4th woman in history in the 45-49 year age group to beat 30 seconds in the 50 SCM butterfly.
She did this at age 47, and it is possible that she is actually the FIRST woman in history this old to break 30 at the age (assuming the previous 3 were 45 or 46.)
www.youtube.com/watch
This small film will help you understand all that goes into becoming an extraordinary human being/swimmer. Oh, and there's a little about Leslie in this, too.
Just joking. It's all about Leslie. With some guest appearances by Paul Wolf, Julie "Mulie" Oplinger, Jeff "the Barbarian" Roddin, and Jim Thornton as "the narrator."
Please enjoy before Leslie forces Jim Matysek to take this down.
Fortress wrote:My own lawyer, Mr. Fort, who has many years of litigation experience and does not look at the rules through a swimmers perspective or experience, agrees.
Good to know Fort found an unbiased lawyer to give an opinion :D
Hulk wrote:And can I get the exact rule number that covers this situation? I have looked thru the USMS rulebook now three times cover to cover in the last 24 hours and can not find where this swim is CLEARLY disallowed. Since you are convinced it is, could you please quote the relevant sections so I can see if I am missing something?
It's not so much to find in the rulebook where it disallows the swim. It's actually the converse: the rulebook defines what is an eligible swim - it does not list all the swims that don't count. Here is one last try at a more direct explanation of my own interpretation of the rulebook: in order for a swim to "count" it must be from a sanctioned/recognized event. Period. The rulebook goes on to explain what constitutes a sanctioned/recognized swim. The time trial was not done in a meet (the zone meet announcement did not include a 50 fly at the end of the meet) and therefore does not meet the definition of an eligible swim.
Again, I think the swim was legit and it's not like she cheated, but if you're asking the Rules Committee to evaluate the swim based on the rules, well, then guess what they'll do...
Perhaps, as some feel, it is simply safer to swim in USS meets. Not nearly as fun, but not nearly as many masters times thrown out for various reasons either.
Or maybe it is safer to swim 50 fly's during the meet...:bolt:
Fortress wrote:My own lawyer, Mr. Fort, who has many years of litigation experience and does not look at the rules through a swimmers perspective or experience, agrees.
Good to know Fort found an unbiased lawyer to give an opinion :D
Hulk wrote:And can I get the exact rule number that covers this situation? I have looked thru the USMS rulebook now three times cover to cover in the last 24 hours and can not find where this swim is CLEARLY disallowed. Since you are convinced it is, could you please quote the relevant sections so I can see if I am missing something?
It's not so much to find in the rulebook where it disallows the swim. It's actually the converse: the rulebook defines what is an eligible swim - it does not list all the swims that don't count. Here is one last try at a more direct explanation of my own interpretation of the rulebook: in order for a swim to "count" it must be from a sanctioned/recognized event. Period. The rulebook goes on to explain what constitutes a sanctioned/recognized swim. The time trial was not done in a meet (the zone meet announcement did not include a 50 fly at the end of the meet) and therefore does not meet the definition of an eligible swim.
Again, I think the swim was legit and it's not like she cheated, but if you're asking the Rules Committee to evaluate the swim based on the rules, well, then guess what they'll do...
Perhaps, as some feel, it is simply safer to swim in USS meets. Not nearly as fun, but not nearly as many masters times thrown out for various reasons either.
Or maybe it is safer to swim 50 fly's during the meet...:bolt:
