Stroke count

Former Member
Former Member
I asked this question under workouts and got no response. hopefully better luck here. When counting strokes where do you count from? Are you counting 1 arm? or is each arm rotation counted? If I count each arm rotation it takes my 16 strokes to cover 25 yds. What should a typical stroke count be?
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  • Former Member
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    From in front it looks like he's extending out as far as possible, but I think you'll see what I mean on the side view starting around 1:10. Yes, he reaches out in front, but he also drives his hand right down to the catch position, maybe 12" or so under water, immediately.That's not 12 inches. It barely goes below his chin. Play it in slow motion. You'll see (look at 1:19 and hit play/stop really fast) his hand is in perfect streamline position while his other hand is just about to finish. Hit play/stop again, still at 1:19, and you'll see he's begun to reach and extend his body, the arm is not moving down. Finally, still at 1:19, he begins to dig down, just as his other hand comes out of the water. Your finish is the strongest part of your stroke, but it's only strong because you're streamlining at the same time. No, not what I had in mind at all. Here's an example of what I'm thinking. Try to reach your arm out over your head as far as possible. If you think about starting a pull from this position, you can feel you don't have much leverage. However, if you relax your arm slightly you can feel the core muscles along your sides engage and you have much more leverage.I see what you mean, but try streamlining with bent arms. That's essentially what you're doing. Besides, what happens when you're in that all too critical moment when you're dangling off a 10 story building? Are you going to be able to pull yourself up!? AND WHAT OF THE BABY WHO IS DANGLING ON YOUR FEET? DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN!? kidding :) Anyways, the reason we see things differently is because you're a sprinter. When we sprint our arm rotation is faster, and there is very little finish time. Distance people move to fast to be bothered with super perfect stroke technique, but when you practice distance, try it.
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  • Former Member
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    From in front it looks like he's extending out as far as possible, but I think you'll see what I mean on the side view starting around 1:10. Yes, he reaches out in front, but he also drives his hand right down to the catch position, maybe 12" or so under water, immediately.That's not 12 inches. It barely goes below his chin. Play it in slow motion. You'll see (look at 1:19 and hit play/stop really fast) his hand is in perfect streamline position while his other hand is just about to finish. Hit play/stop again, still at 1:19, and you'll see he's begun to reach and extend his body, the arm is not moving down. Finally, still at 1:19, he begins to dig down, just as his other hand comes out of the water. Your finish is the strongest part of your stroke, but it's only strong because you're streamlining at the same time. No, not what I had in mind at all. Here's an example of what I'm thinking. Try to reach your arm out over your head as far as possible. If you think about starting a pull from this position, you can feel you don't have much leverage. However, if you relax your arm slightly you can feel the core muscles along your sides engage and you have much more leverage.I see what you mean, but try streamlining with bent arms. That's essentially what you're doing. Besides, what happens when you're in that all too critical moment when you're dangling off a 10 story building? Are you going to be able to pull yourself up!? AND WHAT OF THE BABY WHO IS DANGLING ON YOUR FEET? DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN!? kidding :) Anyways, the reason we see things differently is because you're a sprinter. When we sprint our arm rotation is faster, and there is very little finish time. Distance people move to fast to be bothered with super perfect stroke technique, but when you practice distance, try it.
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