Ban the tech suits?

I am just back from the SPMA meet where all the top finisher were wearing the latest generation tech suits,mostly B-70s(or were named Jeff Commings.)I have here to for been in favor of the suits,but now I am not so sure.First,they eliminate the old bench marks.I went my fastest 100m BR in 5 yr in my LZR,but it was only .3 sec faster than I did untapered 5 wk earlier in my first swim in the LZR.So was my swim good or not,I'm not sure.Also,instead of focusing on technique or pace I found myself ruminating over aspects of the suits,how many more swims did the suit have,is it the right size,was the reason I didn't get better results from my B-70 because it was too big?etc.The B-70 has somewhat mitigated the "too expensive,not durable" problem,but for how long. Lets say a company comes up with a suit that is much faster,say 4 sec/100.Further that it is very expensive(say $1000) lasts 4 swims and is very hard to make so that quantities are always limited and the fastest way to get one is to bid up to $3000 on ebay. Now lets say your nemesis has one,or that getting one is your best chance to get TT or AA or a ZR or WR,or that your child is close to making JO cuts,or finally beating his/her nemesis etc. Is it worth it and where does it stop?
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  • Fortress, I don't think it has anything to do with moral superiority or cheapened performances. Most people that I have seen don't think they are worth the cost for the performance gain. I personally think they are primarily uncomfortable and a hassle for the performance gain. Secondarily, I see no reason to pay more to make myself uncomfortable much less spend money and time to test multiple suits to see which one gives me my ultimate performance. If I had a college scholarship or something of substance on the line, then maybe I would feel differently. However, at this time in my life, it doesn't matter to me if my 50 free or 100 free would be a few tenths faster in a tech suit. For others that want to squeeze out every tenth of a second whether they are breaking records or not, then go for it and I will never criticize you or your times. Calling people idiots for not wearing them so they can minimize their times is silly. Let's remember that Phelps (in his IM and fly events) and Park only wore legskins in the Olympics and they had a lot more on the line than any masters swimmer. Under the "techie" reasoning, I guess they are idiots. Did Ande really call Michael Phelps an idiot because he didn't use technology to his fullest advantage? Like I said previously, I am all for people wearing tech suits because I think it is good for masters swimming. I think it helps keep people in the sport, they put swimming in the national media more, and they probably enhance sponsorship. However, it is a personal decision and not one that should be ridiculed whether you wear them or not. Non-tech suit wearing swimmers can be just as serious competitors as their techie friends. I seriously doubt that the masters rankings would change much if tech suits were banned. Perhaps, a few less records would be broken, but the same people would be breaking the records. I have participated in other sports where technology is important as well like cycling and golf and use some of the latest technology. It is difficult to stay up with all the improvements. However, I don't think it is uncomfortable and a hassle to use the technology in those sports like it is in swimming. I also think the technology gains related to those sports are greater than what the tech suits provide. I can drive a tee shot much more consistently and noticably further with my "techie" driver and it is just as easy to swing as a conventional driver (maybe easier). Carbon fiber and aero bars are great too and personally make cycling more enjoyable for me. I like the new skis as well. Blackberries are great. I am hardly a non-techie in the rest of my life, I just don't like the comfort/hassle/cost versus performance trade-off related to the tech suits as I do for other technology. Now if they create a suit that is easy to put on, isn't uncomfortable, costs less or lasts longer, and produces larger time drops maybe I would be all over that suit. Anyway, I don't think anyone's records produced in a tech suit are cheapened by the suit and I don't think that is the most common reason for people not wearing them (that would be cost and comfort in relation to the individual's desire for a performance gain). Tim
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  • Fortress, I don't think it has anything to do with moral superiority or cheapened performances. Most people that I have seen don't think they are worth the cost for the performance gain. I personally think they are primarily uncomfortable and a hassle for the performance gain. Secondarily, I see no reason to pay more to make myself uncomfortable much less spend money and time to test multiple suits to see which one gives me my ultimate performance. If I had a college scholarship or something of substance on the line, then maybe I would feel differently. However, at this time in my life, it doesn't matter to me if my 50 free or 100 free would be a few tenths faster in a tech suit. For others that want to squeeze out every tenth of a second whether they are breaking records or not, then go for it and I will never criticize you or your times. Calling people idiots for not wearing them so they can minimize their times is silly. Let's remember that Phelps (in his IM and fly events) and Park only wore legskins in the Olympics and they had a lot more on the line than any masters swimmer. Under the "techie" reasoning, I guess they are idiots. Did Ande really call Michael Phelps an idiot because he didn't use technology to his fullest advantage? Like I said previously, I am all for people wearing tech suits because I think it is good for masters swimming. I think it helps keep people in the sport, they put swimming in the national media more, and they probably enhance sponsorship. However, it is a personal decision and not one that should be ridiculed whether you wear them or not. Non-tech suit wearing swimmers can be just as serious competitors as their techie friends. I seriously doubt that the masters rankings would change much if tech suits were banned. Perhaps, a few less records would be broken, but the same people would be breaking the records. I have participated in other sports where technology is important as well like cycling and golf and use some of the latest technology. It is difficult to stay up with all the improvements. However, I don't think it is uncomfortable and a hassle to use the technology in those sports like it is in swimming. I also think the technology gains related to those sports are greater than what the tech suits provide. I can drive a tee shot much more consistently and noticably further with my "techie" driver and it is just as easy to swing as a conventional driver (maybe easier). Carbon fiber and aero bars are great too and personally make cycling more enjoyable for me. I like the new skis as well. Blackberries are great. I am hardly a non-techie in the rest of my life, I just don't like the comfort/hassle/cost versus performance trade-off related to the tech suits as I do for other technology. Now if they create a suit that is easy to put on, isn't uncomfortable, costs less or lasts longer, and produces larger time drops maybe I would be all over that suit. Anyway, I don't think anyone's records produced in a tech suit are cheapened by the suit and I don't think that is the most common reason for people not wearing them (that would be cost and comfort in relation to the individual's desire for a performance gain). Tim
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