I know that I have seen others talk about "how good am I if I swim the 200 in this time", or "if my mile is 17min".
and then the responses are typically, look at results from previous meets, or last years top 10 time.
But does anyone try to take into account how many actually swim that event/distance? Is one a good swimmer merely because only 12 people swim the 400 IM.
I looked at the 2007 top 10 SCM for Men 30-34. for *** and IM I would have been top 10 in 3 of 6 events/distances.
50 br 33.37 outside of top 10
100br 1:14.08 (10)
200br 2:42.20 (7)
400 IM 5:19.71 (7)
but how many 30-34 competed in those events in 2007? I would guess that more people competed in 2006 at the World Championships in Cali.
In Sweden I have top 10 times in nearly everything but 50-100 free, but that is only because it's not too often that there are more than 10-12 swimmers in my age grupp. I know of 4-6 swimmers that will be 35-39 in 2010 and all of them are significanly faster than me, just not sure swimming at the Worlds is something they plan on doing.
I recently looked at a German time standard, since they had one for every year 11-18 and then an open I used the open table. The table was scaled to 1-20. 20 being the fastest. something simliar to the US AAAA standards but with more divisions. I was at best 6 of a possible 20 in Breaststroke. and not even 1 in Back and Fly. and between 1-2 for Free and IM. to me that seems more like a realistic measurement of my ability.
Anyway, as far as fast swimmers in practice, we have a couple guys that compete maybe twice a year tops. They are all very fast, but one of them regularly swims around the 50 fly record. He decided to go with the team to compete at a meet not too long ago, and his time was like three tenths off the national record. I watched his swim, and he definitely goes faster in practice, so I'm sure he could have broken it;
Seriously, get a grip. The clock doesn't lie. You get the record for MEET PERFORMANCE, not practice performance, not practice tales of legend. They haven't started handing out medals for practice performance but, if they start, looks like we already have a few national record standard bearers.
Have you ever heard the terms "practice swimmer" versus "meet swimmer" used?
Oh, and "regularly swimming around the 50 fly record" is about the strangest thing I've heard. What in the world does that mean?
If you take competition as the pinnacle of performance then allegations of records set in practice are meaningless. This isn't to downplay the importance of strong practices but the records exist for those who compete.
BTW - is that blog of yours for real? How much do your sponsors pay you?
Anyway, as far as fast swimmers in practice, we have a couple guys that compete maybe twice a year tops. They are all very fast, but one of them regularly swims around the 50 fly record. He decided to go with the team to compete at a meet not too long ago, and his time was like three tenths off the national record. I watched his swim, and he definitely goes faster in practice, so I'm sure he could have broken it;
Seriously, get a grip. The clock doesn't lie. You get the record for MEET PERFORMANCE, not practice performance, not practice tales of legend. They haven't started handing out medals for practice performance but, if they start, looks like we already have a few national record standard bearers.
Have you ever heard the terms "practice swimmer" versus "meet swimmer" used?
Oh, and "regularly swimming around the 50 fly record" is about the strangest thing I've heard. What in the world does that mean?
If you take competition as the pinnacle of performance then allegations of records set in practice are meaningless. This isn't to downplay the importance of strong practices but the records exist for those who compete.
BTW - is that blog of yours for real? How much do your sponsors pay you?
