I am so disgusted--I've done the TI drills, had lessons, had swim team college kids give me tips, yet I still just can't seem to get the freestyle arm action right. Do you exactly move your arm in the recovery phase the same as you move it in the fingertip drag drills? Or do you do a wind up motion of your shoulder to bring the arm out of the water? No matter what I try, I am so pathetically slow--more often than not, I am feeling like it is all wrong. I am a good breakstroker and decent flyer, and great backstroker, but geez, I need to be able to do the free - I swim about 12 miles a week. Any tips are sooooo appreciated.:bow:
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I really have trouble seeing what some of you are saying about Thorpe I still think you are seeing water refraction in several of his from the side video shots. His stroke looks pretty close in and not the wide pull some are talking about. Maybe I need new glasses.
geochuck, my point is simple, Thorpe is a great master of I-stroke, and s-shape stroke and I-stroke are different, period.
I've a great deal of respect for you, I simply don't see reason because you need new glass :).
There're different "version" of I-stroke, every world-class swimmer perfect his particular version, nothing new there, someone have a wider pull that the others.
You talk about that his stroke is pretty close to his body...
well, yes!
but I've no read that somebody is talking about his great wide pull...
so I've asked you what is your point.
BTW Thopre roll a lot on his side, so a close path is better.
if you look at some sprinters that roll less, you'll see a wider pull, I think that the best examples is K.L. Joyce. look at this video... www.youtube.com/watch
her upper arm is nealy parallel to the deck/floor
I really have trouble seeing what some of you are saying about Thorpe I still think you are seeing water refraction in several of his from the side video shots. His stroke looks pretty close in and not the wide pull some are talking about. Maybe I need new glasses.
geochuck, my point is simple, Thorpe is a great master of I-stroke, and s-shape stroke and I-stroke are different, period.
I've a great deal of respect for you, I simply don't see reason because you need new glass :).
There're different "version" of I-stroke, every world-class swimmer perfect his particular version, nothing new there, someone have a wider pull that the others.
You talk about that his stroke is pretty close to his body...
well, yes!
but I've no read that somebody is talking about his great wide pull...
so I've asked you what is your point.
BTW Thopre roll a lot on his side, so a close path is better.
if you look at some sprinters that roll less, you'll see a wider pull, I think that the best examples is K.L. Joyce. look at this video... www.youtube.com/watch
her upper arm is nealy parallel to the deck/floor
