I am so disgusted--I've done the TI drills, had lessons, had swim team college kids give me tips, yet I still just can't seem to get the freestyle arm action right. Do you exactly move your arm in the recovery phase the same as you move it in the fingertip drag drills? Or do you do a wind up motion of your shoulder to bring the arm out of the water? No matter what I try, I am so pathetically slow--more often than not, I am feeling like it is all wrong. I am a good breakstroker and decent flyer, and great backstroker, but geez, I need to be able to do the free - I swim about 12 miles a week. Any tips are sooooo appreciated.:bow:
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The "I" stroke is a "S" stroke but because we rotate more then we did when the "S" stroke first appeared, the "S" now appears to be an "I". My opinion...
Well geochuck, IMO you forget the point of view of the swimmers to really differentiate the two stroke, if you call I-stroke the stroke where you get into EVF and your insweep/upsweep is done with the hand out on your side and it don't cross under your body, like showed by Hackett/Thorpe.
From the deck with the rotation side-to-side whatever you do, you'll see a 3D S-shape like movement, but if you consider the classic s-shape stroke and the point of view of the swimmers, the swimmers draw a intentional S-shape motion with his hands, in I-Stroke the swimmers draw a nearly perfect I after he get into EVF.
Moreover they are based from very different principe, from lift/drag theory the s-shape, from 3rd law of Newton the I-stroke.
You can win gold medals with both of them but they're different IMHO.
The "I" stroke is a "S" stroke but because we rotate more then we did when the "S" stroke first appeared, the "S" now appears to be an "I". My opinion...
Well geochuck, IMO you forget the point of view of the swimmers to really differentiate the two stroke, if you call I-stroke the stroke where you get into EVF and your insweep/upsweep is done with the hand out on your side and it don't cross under your body, like showed by Hackett/Thorpe.
From the deck with the rotation side-to-side whatever you do, you'll see a 3D S-shape like movement, but if you consider the classic s-shape stroke and the point of view of the swimmers, the swimmers draw a intentional S-shape motion with his hands, in I-Stroke the swimmers draw a nearly perfect I after he get into EVF.
Moreover they are based from very different principe, from lift/drag theory the s-shape, from 3rd law of Newton the I-stroke.
You can win gold medals with both of them but they're different IMHO.