I am so disgusted--I've done the TI drills, had lessons, had swim team college kids give me tips, yet I still just can't seem to get the freestyle arm action right. Do you exactly move your arm in the recovery phase the same as you move it in the fingertip drag drills? Or do you do a wind up motion of your shoulder to bring the arm out of the water? No matter what I try, I am so pathetically slow--more often than not, I am feeling like it is all wrong. I am a good breakstroker and decent flyer, and great backstroker, but geez, I need to be able to do the free - I swim about 12 miles a week. Any tips are sooooo appreciated.:bow:
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Sorry for the confusion George, but I wasn't refering to getting shoulder problems from EVF, but rather from stroking out to the side vs. the s-stroke. I haven't experienced shoulder problems either way, but was reporting what my coaches have told me. I am very good at not saying what I mean. What I mean by forcing EVF immediately is trying to hook your shoulders up so that your arm enters almost vertically. I don't know why anyone would swim that way, but I've seen people do it.
Hey, Michael, I was referring to the moment I start my recovery. If I am going fast, I tend to end the push sooner, isn't that what most people do? I think I have already asked this question here before. Assuming the last part of the stroke isn't accelerating as much, would it be more efficient to start a new cycle as your hands cross the belly button?
I'm not the expert, but I think swimming in an almost-catch-up manner is the most efficient. Someone mentioned Ian Thorpe, and that's exactly how he swims. When I swim front crawl, my recovering hand enters the water about the time that my other arm is under my shoulder, even when I'm going fast. When I do it right, I feel like I'm skipping over the water. It's a weird feeling.
Sorry for the confusion George, but I wasn't refering to getting shoulder problems from EVF, but rather from stroking out to the side vs. the s-stroke. I haven't experienced shoulder problems either way, but was reporting what my coaches have told me. I am very good at not saying what I mean. What I mean by forcing EVF immediately is trying to hook your shoulders up so that your arm enters almost vertically. I don't know why anyone would swim that way, but I've seen people do it.
Hey, Michael, I was referring to the moment I start my recovery. If I am going fast, I tend to end the push sooner, isn't that what most people do? I think I have already asked this question here before. Assuming the last part of the stroke isn't accelerating as much, would it be more efficient to start a new cycle as your hands cross the belly button?
I'm not the expert, but I think swimming in an almost-catch-up manner is the most efficient. Someone mentioned Ian Thorpe, and that's exactly how he swims. When I swim front crawl, my recovering hand enters the water about the time that my other arm is under my shoulder, even when I'm going fast. When I do it right, I feel like I'm skipping over the water. It's a weird feeling.
