I am hitting the wall

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I just got back to swimming 4 weeks ago. we do 4500yds-5000yds a day -no problem. But i can't seem to break 32 sec. on 50 m. it's like i hit the wall each time i try. I tried brethe every 4 and 2 no luck. I swim freestyle my coach says build more endurance. any ideas? jjpj
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    For the original poster - you say you swim so many YARDS per day but you are not happy with your 50 METER time. Please confirm what distance you are swimming. 32 seconds for a long course 50 meters freestyle is a reasonably fast time. It is not so fast for 50 yards short course. You also did not say how you swim those 4500 yds per day. What kinds of sets? Are most of your workouts similar from day to day? Do you train in a long course pool or short course pool? I am not sure your coach knows what he is doing if he tells you to improve your endurance. Swimming a fast 50 doesn't require much endurance at all. It requires some power and good sprinting technique.
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    For the original poster - you say you swim so many YARDS per day but you are not happy with your 50 METER time. Please confirm what distance you are swimming. 32 seconds for a long course 50 meters freestyle is a reasonably fast time. It is not so fast for 50 yards short course. You also did not say how you swim those 4500 yds per day. What kinds of sets? Are most of your workouts similar from day to day? Do you train in a long course pool or short course pool? Excellent thought! The type of sets, intervals, etc that you swim can greatly effect what your overall times are...great post!
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    I am not trying to be rude. But saying you do pull, kick, sprints is not very informative. What does a typical workout contain? Do you mostly do 100s, 200s, 400s, etc.? And how fast do you swim these sets? If you swam 10 x 100m, what would the interval be and what is your rest? If you swim many very long sets of 200s or 400s or 500s they will do little to improve your 50 speed. There are many here that know more than me. But to improve sprinting speed you should swim some sprints a few times every week. I would focus on 25s, not 50s. Swim some 50s where you sprint 25, relax 25, on a long interval like 2:00. I would also suggest that you try to breathe only 1 or 2 times on the sprint 25.
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    I agree with Andy. That workout has too many small sets. An aerobic threshold set (intended to improve your overall aerobic capacity) should last at least 15 minutes, up to 30 minutes overall. These sets should give you approx 10 secs rest between 100s and they should be swum at an upper moderate pace. 10x100 @ 1:30 would last 15 minutes 15x100 @ 1:30 would last 22.5 minutes Follow a set like that with a non-freestyle set (like 5x100 or 10x50) or a kick set for something adding up to 30 minutes of swimming. Change things up by swimming 200s, 300s, or occasionally 400s. I like to do a bit of sprinting every day. I like 50s with 25 sprint, 25 easy. Other days of the week do some real high intensity fast swimming. Today my "main set" was 14x50 on 2:00. Lots of rest but the 50s were essentially best effort. That set took 28 minutes. The set was followed by 8 x 50 easy recovery swimming. Then 6x50 kick on 2:00 - again best effort. Not a lot of yardage overall but I was dead at the end. I absolutely agree (and I apologize for being redundant)!
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    I'm trying to save time by only reading subject lines and not actual posts: Start your turn a little further out. :bolt: :lmao:
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    I'm trying to save time by only reading subject lines and not actual posts: Start your turn a little further out. :bolt: This is excellent!! I laughed so hard when I read this!! :applaud:
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    Keep it simple, you have reached a 'slump or plateau' need I explain more???
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    This is excellent!! I laughed so hard when I read this!! :applaud: oh! wow!so funny!!! actually i never hit the wall :)- but yah funny quote. jjpj
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    here is sample: 4X ( 1X50 @1:00 ; 1x75@1:30 ->i did it at 1:07) 3X50 @ 50 =did it at 37, 35, 34 1X100 @ 1:35=did it at 1:27 3X50 @50 1X150@2:20 3x50@50 1x200 @3:15=did it at 2:50 4X( 3X75 @1:30/1:25/1:20/1:30) 1X50 @ 1:10-did it at 0:36 400 smooth end jjpj In my opinion, this workout is too sparatic. You go from one concentration to the next without your muscles truly getting a sense of what your focus is supposed to be. Try to narrow down your focus for the day and/or week (set a goal of what you want to work on...endurance or sprint and go from there). It also looks like you need to lower your intervals quite a bit! Again, just my opinion.
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    I agree with Andy. That workout has too many small sets. An aerobic threshold set (intended to improve your overall aerobic capacity) should last at least 15 minutes, up to 30 minutes overall. These sets should give you approx 10 secs rest between 100s and they should be swum at an upper moderate pace. 10x100 @ 1:30 would last 15 minutes 15x100 @ 1:30 would last 22.5 minutes Follow a set like that with a non-freestyle set (like 5x100 or 10x50) or a kick set for something adding up to 30 minutes of swimming. Change things up by swimming 200s, 300s, or occasionally 400s. I like to do a bit of sprinting every day. I like 50s with 25 sprint, 25 easy. Other days of the week do some real high intensity fast swimming. Today my "main set" was 14x50 on 2:00. Lots of rest but the 50s were essentially best effort. That set took 28 minutes. The set was followed by 8 x 50 easy recovery swimming. Then 6x50 kick on 2:00 - again best effort. Not a lot of yardage overall but I was dead at the end.