Looking at the 4x50 Free and Medley World Records for 120-159 and 160-199. I just don't like seeing teams from Finland, Italy and Canada holding records in those age-groups - so who is coming to Long Beach and interested in swimming a relay ?
Time + Age requirements:
Free for the 120-159 avg = 23.58 (that's fast)
Free for the 160-199 avg = 24.0 + we need the right ages
*** / Back and Fly - records are 1:44 and 1:46 - also very fast, looking for *** around 30-31 (at least) - Back 26-27 and Fly 25+
By the way - these are not yard times - :)
If you are interested reply here or send me a PM + START SWIMMING UNATTACHED until we figure what team we can do this under.
We have 2 people right now - so we need at least 2 more
:soapbox:Am I the only one that has a problem with this thread?
I would bet that most of the relay records by these teams are a collection of swimmers from different teams - the times are rather fast. So to me it's about as hollow as beating some "soft" time in another age group. :duel:
You say hollow - I say soft - not really that much of a difference.
What if soft ? Not sure exactly in terms of records - one of our coaches put on one of the first short-course meters meet some years ago and he broke a 400 record by 40 seconds - that was soft. My belly is also soft. Many of the longer US Masters relay records, 400 and 800, are much easier to achieve than the 200 relays - those are records, but they are soft. My brain gets soft after a few beers (and sometimes that;s not even required). If a 100 *** age group record is 8 seconds slower than the regular world record and the 100 Back record is 12 seconds slower, then the Backstroke record is soft. My legs are soft too - but my kick is not. :D
When I lived in Minnesota, the Minneapolis masters team at the time accounted for about 85 percent of the states masters swimmers. They would have this occasional meet they called Minneapolis vs. The World, which, for practical purposes, was 85 percent of Minnesota swimmers vs. an assortment of ragtag teams from various other hinterlands where most swimmers only learned the sport as a survival mechanism for when you fall in a mudhole and get chased by eelpouts.
Anyhow, St. Paul opened a downtown Y, and our team trained really hard, entered the meet, and with the help of a few Green Giant tenant farmers and the like, managed to beat Minneapolis one year.
Don't give up hope. The World could some day triumph over Pacific Masters, I am pretty sure, barring recruitment, that is, from adjacent land-locked desert states.
Hi Hoch
I'm 45 swam at long beach last year and thinking about coming back
here's my 2007 SCM times and 2008 LCM times
50 fr SCM 24.69 LCM 24.50
50 fl SCM 26.15 LCM 26.05
50 bk SCM 28.30 LCM 28.14
should be able to recruit:
Tyler Blessing 35 who went 50 fr SCY 20.9 went to LB last year
David Guthrie 47 who went 50 br LCM 30.5 went to LB last year
Brad Bailey 37ish went 25.9 50 LCM fl
Todd Bartee 38ish went 27 low 50 br scy
Mike Varrozza 40 50 scy fr relay split 21.1 50 fly 23.0
Prefer to swim for Longhorn Masters
Looking at the 4x50 Free and Medley World Records for 120-159 and 160-199. I just don't like seeing teams from Finland, Italy and Canada holding records in those age-groups - so who is coming to Long Beach and interested in swimming a relay ?
Time + Age requirements:
Free for the 120-159 avg = 23.58 (that's fast)
Free for the 160-199 avg = 24.0 + we need the right ages
*** / Back and Fly - records are 1:44 and 1:46 - also very fast, looking for *** around 30-31 (at least) - Back 26-27 and Fly 25+
By the way - these are not yard times - :)
If you are interested reply here or send me a PM + START SWIMMING UNATTACHED until we figure what team we can do this under.
We have 2 people right now - so we need at least 2 more
Don't give up hope. The World could some day triumph over Pacific Masters, I am pretty sure, barring recruitment, that is, from adjacent land-locked desert states.
I'm sure the PM monopoly is due to excess de-regulation, no?
That was really a good one, Bill!
Ande - not sure you guys need anybody to make a run at these - who of these guys will for sure be in Long Beach ?
Not sure I can swim for Longhorn - what's next - Stanford Aquatics ? :cry:
not sure who would going to go
guth and tyler went last year
I was hoping to get a SCM championship meet at the swim center but the only weekend that would work was 11/22 & 23 and dallas already announced their meet
ande
Ande - not sure you guys need anybody to make a run at these - who of these guys will for sure be in Long Beach ?
Not sure I can swim for Longhorn - what's next - Stanford Aquatics ? :cry:
