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Strategy for 200 FR

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I've never raced a 200, or even a 100 FR; my 50 FR SCY is 26.8. I'm in a USA meet Sept 20th - expecting to get trounced by kids half my age, but still I want to put in a good showing. How should I race? What should my 50 pace be? How do I not die on the last 50? etc... I'm 44, male, swimming masters only 2 years, still learning lots, and open to all feedback - thanks!
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  • here's how men split the 200 free at the UT Invite 1st - 8th are good examples of how to split a a 200 1st place broke the american record 6th place had the largest drop off from when we compare his 3rd 50 to his 4th 50th 15th place is a perfect example of how NOT to split a 200 free that must have been agonizing The correct way to swim a 200 is easy speed, breathe, save your legs for the 2nd 100, and finish tough. Times for the the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 50's should be very close, even and preferably decended, but not ascended. Keep your 2nd, 3rd & 4th 50's within 0.25 of each other. Keep your last 50 within 2.0 of your first 50. Event 20 Men 200 Yard Freestyle === A - Final === 1 Walters, David Texas 1:34.85 1:31.83 AUTO 20 r:+0.75 21.48 44.77 (23.29) 1:08.11 (23.34) 1:31.83 (23.72) 2 Berens, Ricky Texas 1:35.71 1:32.82 AUTO 17 r:+0.76 21.85 45.67 (23.82) 1:09.42 (23.75) 1:32.82 (23.40) 3 Basson, Jean Arizona 1:33.26 1:33.48 AUTO 16 r:+0.77 22.14 45.66 (23.52) 1:09.34 (23.68) 1:33.48 (24.14) 4 Klueh, Michael Texas 1:35.90 1:34.50 CONS 15 r:+0.76 22.00 45.98 (23.98) 1:10.29 (24.31) 1:34.50 (24.21) 5 Shapira Bar-Or, Arizona 1:36.29 1:34.83 CONS 14 r:+0.80 22.32 46.35 (24.03) 1:10.60 (24.25) 1:34.83 (24.23) 6 Verlatti, Ryan Texas 1:35.79 1:35.25 CONS 13 r:+0.78 22.46 46.58 (24.12) 1:10.59 (24.01) 1:35.25 (24.66) 7 Wilcox, Jackson Texas 1:35.91 1:36.11 CONS 12 r:+0.77 22.57 46.77 (24.20) 1:11.60 (24.83) 1:36.11 (24.51) 8 Waked, Vinny Arizona St 1:36.34 1:36.57 CONS 11 r:+0.77 22.83 47.17 (24.34) 1:11.76 (24.59) 1:36.57 (24.81) === B - Final === 9 Boyle, Sean Arizona St 1:36.34 1:35.91 CONS 9 r:+0.74 22.93 47.47 (24.54) 1:11.82 (24.35) 1:35.91 (24.09) 10 Patton, Sean Texas 1:36.41 1:35.96 CONS 7 r:+0.82 22.56 46.59 (24.03) 1:11.10 (24.51) 1:35.96 (24.86) 11 Tipton, Alexand Arizona 1:37.06 1:36.81 CONS 6 r:+0.72 22.64 47.12 (24.48) 1:12.09 (24.97) 1:36.81 (24.72) 12 McNeilis, Kyle Texas 1:36.80 1:36.82 CONS 5 r:+0.78 23.03 47.52 (24.49) 1:12.26 (24.74) 1:36.82 (24.56) 13 Jameson, Peter Texas 1:37.56 1:36.83 CONS 4 r:+0.77 22.37 46.62 (24.25) 1:11.61 (24.99) 1:36.83 (25.22) 14 Smith, Jordan Arizona 1:36.98 1:37.12 3 r:+0.69 22.40 46.71 (24.31) 1:11.62 (24.91) 1:37.12 (25.50) 15 Jackson, Jonath Texas 1:36.92 1:37.25 2 r:+0.69 20.97 44.37 (23.40) 1:09.92 (25.55) 1:37.25 (27.33) 16 Svendsen, Tyler Arizona 1:37.86 1:37.31 1 r:+0.78 22.80 47.37 (24.57) 1:12.43 (25.06) 1:37.31 (24.88) === C - Final === 17 Feigen, Jimmy Texas 1:37.95 1:37.27 r:+0.70 22.10 46.66 (24.56) 1:12.03 (25.37) 1:37.27 (25.24) 18 Thompson, Kyle Wisconsin 1:38.07 1:37.86 r:+0.68 22.38 47.54 (25.16) 1:12.93 (25.39) 1:37.86 (24.93) 19 Kirkpatrick, Ad Arizona St 1:38.59 1:38.68 r:+0.76 23.04 48.11 (25.07) 1:13.24 (25.13) 1:38.68 (25.44) 20 Nagle, Brett Wisconsin 1:38.21 1:38.88 r:+0.71 22.97 47.94 (24.97) 1:13.53 (25.59) 1:38.88 (25.35) 21 Raffard, Arthur Arizona 1:38.97 1:39.21 r:+0.81 23.26 48.23 (24.97) 1:13.93 (25.70) 1:39.21 (25.28) 21 Iddiols, Robert Arizona 1:39.24 1:39.21 r:+0.72 22.97 48.08 (25.11) 1:13.70 (25.62) 1:39.21 (25.51) 23 Robertson, Jim Texas 1:39.18 1:39.63 r:+0.76 22.96 48.26 (25.30) 1:14.31 (26.05) 1:39.63 (25.32) 24 Rice, Scott Wisconsin 1:39.11 1:39.81 r:+0.82 23.29 48.63 (25.34) 1:14.15 (25.52) 1:39.81 (25.66) === D - Final === 25 Van Roekel, Ben Texas 1:39.88 1:37.35 r:+0.77 22.35 47.29 (24.94) 1:12.54 (25.25) 1:37.35 (24.81) 26 Stacy, Peter Arizona 1:40.34 1:38.35 r:+0.79 23.69 49.17 (25.48) 1:14.27 (25.10) 1:38.35 (24.08) 27 Caskey, Neil Texas 1:40.58 1:38.51 r:+0.78 22.77 47.72 (24.95) 1:12.99 (25.27) 1:38.51 (25.52) 28 Koubratoff, Rob Arizona 1:39.94 1:40.47 r:+0.81 23.64 49.42 (25.78) 1:15.00 (25.58) 1:40.47 (25.47) 29 Richardson, Tre UC Davis 1:40.21 1:40.49 r:+0.77 23.61 49.69 (26.08) 1:15.17 (25.48) 1:40.49 (25.32) 30 Lengfeld, Luke Wisconsin 1:40.39 1:40.66 r:+0.74 23.35 49.25 (25.90) 1:15.71 (26.46) 1:40.66 (24.95) 31 Underwood, Russ UC Davis 1:41.02 1:41.13 r:+0.64 23.35 48.61 (25.26) 1:14.47 (25.86) 1:41.13 (26.66) 32 Morris, Jeff Wisconsin 1:40.74 1:41.42 r:+0.85 23.72 49.33 (25.61) 1:15.63 (26.30) 1:41.42 (25.79) === Preliminaries === 7 Jostes, Scott Texas 1:36.21 22.49 47.39 (24.90) 1:12.02 (24.63) 1:36.21 (24.19) 21 Davies, Phil Wisconsin 1:38.43 22.36 47.08 (24.72) 1:12.64 (25.56) 1:38.43 (25.79) 23 Sorensen, Kyle Wisconsin 1:38.86 22.65 47.80 (25.15) 1:13.54 (25.74) 1:38.86 (25.32) 28 Nemeth, Chris Wisconsin 1:39.83 22.53 47.72 (25.19) 1:13.35 (25.63) 1:39.83 (26.48) 36 Daneke, Alex UC Davis 1:40.89 23.18 48.79 (25.61) 1:14.67 (25.88) 1:40.89 (26.22) 38 Schaffer, Alex Texas 1:41.32 23.33 48.39 (25.06) 1:14.86 (26.47) 1:41.32 (26.46) 39 Yamashita, Yuta Arizona St 1:41.34 23.81 49.17 (25.36) 1:15.32 (26.15) 1:41.34 (26.02) 40 Madwa, Mohammed Arizona St 1:41.45 23.24 48.72 (25.48) 1:14.92 (26.20) 1:41.45 (26.53) 41 Arbios, Alex UC Davis 1:41.51 23.78 49.13 (25.35) 1:15.37 (26.24) 1:41.51 (26.14) 42 Andrews, Conner Wisconsin 1:42.08 23.07 48.72 (25.65) 1:15.30 (26.58) 1:42.08 (26.78) 43 Wiesner, Steven Wisconsin 1:42.40 22.79 48.22 (25.43) 1:14.61 (26.39) 1:42.40 (27.79) 44 Kraus, Evan UC Davis 1:42.54 23.55 49.40 (25.85) 1:15.72 (26.32) 1:42.54 (26.82) 45 Roberts, Fraser Wisconsin 1:42.73 22.97 48.31 (25.34) 1:15.22 (26.91) 1:42.73 (27.51) 46 Murtagh, Colin Texas 1:42.82 22.77 47.81 (25.04) 1:15.23 (27.42) 1:42.82 (27.59) 47 Wise, Dustin Texas 1:43.09 23.16 48.57 (25.41) 1:14.89 (26.32) 1:43.09 (28.20) 48 Ruane, Nolan Arizona St 1:43.11 23.43 49.00 (25.57) 1:15.65 (26.65) 1:43.11 (27.46) 49 Sutton, Donald Texas 1:43.16 23.72 50.12 (26.40) 1:16.79 (26.67) 1:43.16 (26.37) 50 Borchard, Adam UC Davis 1:43.27 23.88 50.23 (26.35) 1:17.14 (26.91) 1:43.27 (26.13) 51 Anderson, Kyle UC Davis 1:43.48 24.19 50.42 (26.23) 1:17.07 (26.65) 1:43.48 (26.41) 52 Lagerhausen, We Wisconsin 1:43.58 22.55 48.15 (25.60) 1:15.10 (26.95) 1:43.58 (28.48) 53 Hunter, Pierce UC Davis 1:44.14 24.05 50.16 (26.11) 1:17.05 (26.89) 1:44.14 (27.09) 54 Robinson, Brand UC Davis 1:45.54 23.64 50.03 (26.39) 1:17.64 (27.61) 1:45.54 (27.90) 55 Houston, Craig TXLA 1:45.63 23.59 53.20 (29.61) 1:16.75 (23.55) 1:45.63 (28.88) 56 Calenti, Tony Arizona St 1:46.88 25.37 52.38 (27.01) 1:19.63 (27.25) 1:46.88 (27.25) 57 Donnelly, Danie UC Davis 1:48.56 25.26 52.84 (27.58) 1:20.70 (27.86) 1:48.56 (27.86)
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  • here's how men split the 200 free at the UT Invite 1st - 8th are good examples of how to split a a 200 1st place broke the american record 6th place had the largest drop off from when we compare his 3rd 50 to his 4th 50th 15th place is a perfect example of how NOT to split a 200 free that must have been agonizing The correct way to swim a 200 is easy speed, breathe, save your legs for the 2nd 100, and finish tough. Times for the the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 50's should be very close, even and preferably decended, but not ascended. Keep your 2nd, 3rd & 4th 50's within 0.25 of each other. Keep your last 50 within 2.0 of your first 50. Event 20 Men 200 Yard Freestyle === A - Final === 1 Walters, David Texas 1:34.85 1:31.83 AUTO 20 r:+0.75 21.48 44.77 (23.29) 1:08.11 (23.34) 1:31.83 (23.72) 2 Berens, Ricky Texas 1:35.71 1:32.82 AUTO 17 r:+0.76 21.85 45.67 (23.82) 1:09.42 (23.75) 1:32.82 (23.40) 3 Basson, Jean Arizona 1:33.26 1:33.48 AUTO 16 r:+0.77 22.14 45.66 (23.52) 1:09.34 (23.68) 1:33.48 (24.14) 4 Klueh, Michael Texas 1:35.90 1:34.50 CONS 15 r:+0.76 22.00 45.98 (23.98) 1:10.29 (24.31) 1:34.50 (24.21) 5 Shapira Bar-Or, Arizona 1:36.29 1:34.83 CONS 14 r:+0.80 22.32 46.35 (24.03) 1:10.60 (24.25) 1:34.83 (24.23) 6 Verlatti, Ryan Texas 1:35.79 1:35.25 CONS 13 r:+0.78 22.46 46.58 (24.12) 1:10.59 (24.01) 1:35.25 (24.66) 7 Wilcox, Jackson Texas 1:35.91 1:36.11 CONS 12 r:+0.77 22.57 46.77 (24.20) 1:11.60 (24.83) 1:36.11 (24.51) 8 Waked, Vinny Arizona St 1:36.34 1:36.57 CONS 11 r:+0.77 22.83 47.17 (24.34) 1:11.76 (24.59) 1:36.57 (24.81) === B - Final === 9 Boyle, Sean Arizona St 1:36.34 1:35.91 CONS 9 r:+0.74 22.93 47.47 (24.54) 1:11.82 (24.35) 1:35.91 (24.09) 10 Patton, Sean Texas 1:36.41 1:35.96 CONS 7 r:+0.82 22.56 46.59 (24.03) 1:11.10 (24.51) 1:35.96 (24.86) 11 Tipton, Alexand Arizona 1:37.06 1:36.81 CONS 6 r:+0.72 22.64 47.12 (24.48) 1:12.09 (24.97) 1:36.81 (24.72) 12 McNeilis, Kyle Texas 1:36.80 1:36.82 CONS 5 r:+0.78 23.03 47.52 (24.49) 1:12.26 (24.74) 1:36.82 (24.56) 13 Jameson, Peter Texas 1:37.56 1:36.83 CONS 4 r:+0.77 22.37 46.62 (24.25) 1:11.61 (24.99) 1:36.83 (25.22) 14 Smith, Jordan Arizona 1:36.98 1:37.12 3 r:+0.69 22.40 46.71 (24.31) 1:11.62 (24.91) 1:37.12 (25.50) 15 Jackson, Jonath Texas 1:36.92 1:37.25 2 r:+0.69 20.97 44.37 (23.40) 1:09.92 (25.55) 1:37.25 (27.33) 16 Svendsen, Tyler Arizona 1:37.86 1:37.31 1 r:+0.78 22.80 47.37 (24.57) 1:12.43 (25.06) 1:37.31 (24.88) === C - Final === 17 Feigen, Jimmy Texas 1:37.95 1:37.27 r:+0.70 22.10 46.66 (24.56) 1:12.03 (25.37) 1:37.27 (25.24) 18 Thompson, Kyle Wisconsin 1:38.07 1:37.86 r:+0.68 22.38 47.54 (25.16) 1:12.93 (25.39) 1:37.86 (24.93) 19 Kirkpatrick, Ad Arizona St 1:38.59 1:38.68 r:+0.76 23.04 48.11 (25.07) 1:13.24 (25.13) 1:38.68 (25.44) 20 Nagle, Brett Wisconsin 1:38.21 1:38.88 r:+0.71 22.97 47.94 (24.97) 1:13.53 (25.59) 1:38.88 (25.35) 21 Raffard, Arthur Arizona 1:38.97 1:39.21 r:+0.81 23.26 48.23 (24.97) 1:13.93 (25.70) 1:39.21 (25.28) 21 Iddiols, Robert Arizona 1:39.24 1:39.21 r:+0.72 22.97 48.08 (25.11) 1:13.70 (25.62) 1:39.21 (25.51) 23 Robertson, Jim Texas 1:39.18 1:39.63 r:+0.76 22.96 48.26 (25.30) 1:14.31 (26.05) 1:39.63 (25.32) 24 Rice, Scott Wisconsin 1:39.11 1:39.81 r:+0.82 23.29 48.63 (25.34) 1:14.15 (25.52) 1:39.81 (25.66) === D - Final === 25 Van Roekel, Ben Texas 1:39.88 1:37.35 r:+0.77 22.35 47.29 (24.94) 1:12.54 (25.25) 1:37.35 (24.81) 26 Stacy, Peter Arizona 1:40.34 1:38.35 r:+0.79 23.69 49.17 (25.48) 1:14.27 (25.10) 1:38.35 (24.08) 27 Caskey, Neil Texas 1:40.58 1:38.51 r:+0.78 22.77 47.72 (24.95) 1:12.99 (25.27) 1:38.51 (25.52) 28 Koubratoff, Rob Arizona 1:39.94 1:40.47 r:+0.81 23.64 49.42 (25.78) 1:15.00 (25.58) 1:40.47 (25.47) 29 Richardson, Tre UC Davis 1:40.21 1:40.49 r:+0.77 23.61 49.69 (26.08) 1:15.17 (25.48) 1:40.49 (25.32) 30 Lengfeld, Luke Wisconsin 1:40.39 1:40.66 r:+0.74 23.35 49.25 (25.90) 1:15.71 (26.46) 1:40.66 (24.95) 31 Underwood, Russ UC Davis 1:41.02 1:41.13 r:+0.64 23.35 48.61 (25.26) 1:14.47 (25.86) 1:41.13 (26.66) 32 Morris, Jeff Wisconsin 1:40.74 1:41.42 r:+0.85 23.72 49.33 (25.61) 1:15.63 (26.30) 1:41.42 (25.79) === Preliminaries === 7 Jostes, Scott Texas 1:36.21 22.49 47.39 (24.90) 1:12.02 (24.63) 1:36.21 (24.19) 21 Davies, Phil Wisconsin 1:38.43 22.36 47.08 (24.72) 1:12.64 (25.56) 1:38.43 (25.79) 23 Sorensen, Kyle Wisconsin 1:38.86 22.65 47.80 (25.15) 1:13.54 (25.74) 1:38.86 (25.32) 28 Nemeth, Chris Wisconsin 1:39.83 22.53 47.72 (25.19) 1:13.35 (25.63) 1:39.83 (26.48) 36 Daneke, Alex UC Davis 1:40.89 23.18 48.79 (25.61) 1:14.67 (25.88) 1:40.89 (26.22) 38 Schaffer, Alex Texas 1:41.32 23.33 48.39 (25.06) 1:14.86 (26.47) 1:41.32 (26.46) 39 Yamashita, Yuta Arizona St 1:41.34 23.81 49.17 (25.36) 1:15.32 (26.15) 1:41.34 (26.02) 40 Madwa, Mohammed Arizona St 1:41.45 23.24 48.72 (25.48) 1:14.92 (26.20) 1:41.45 (26.53) 41 Arbios, Alex UC Davis 1:41.51 23.78 49.13 (25.35) 1:15.37 (26.24) 1:41.51 (26.14) 42 Andrews, Conner Wisconsin 1:42.08 23.07 48.72 (25.65) 1:15.30 (26.58) 1:42.08 (26.78) 43 Wiesner, Steven Wisconsin 1:42.40 22.79 48.22 (25.43) 1:14.61 (26.39) 1:42.40 (27.79) 44 Kraus, Evan UC Davis 1:42.54 23.55 49.40 (25.85) 1:15.72 (26.32) 1:42.54 (26.82) 45 Roberts, Fraser Wisconsin 1:42.73 22.97 48.31 (25.34) 1:15.22 (26.91) 1:42.73 (27.51) 46 Murtagh, Colin Texas 1:42.82 22.77 47.81 (25.04) 1:15.23 (27.42) 1:42.82 (27.59) 47 Wise, Dustin Texas 1:43.09 23.16 48.57 (25.41) 1:14.89 (26.32) 1:43.09 (28.20) 48 Ruane, Nolan Arizona St 1:43.11 23.43 49.00 (25.57) 1:15.65 (26.65) 1:43.11 (27.46) 49 Sutton, Donald Texas 1:43.16 23.72 50.12 (26.40) 1:16.79 (26.67) 1:43.16 (26.37) 50 Borchard, Adam UC Davis 1:43.27 23.88 50.23 (26.35) 1:17.14 (26.91) 1:43.27 (26.13) 51 Anderson, Kyle UC Davis 1:43.48 24.19 50.42 (26.23) 1:17.07 (26.65) 1:43.48 (26.41) 52 Lagerhausen, We Wisconsin 1:43.58 22.55 48.15 (25.60) 1:15.10 (26.95) 1:43.58 (28.48) 53 Hunter, Pierce UC Davis 1:44.14 24.05 50.16 (26.11) 1:17.05 (26.89) 1:44.14 (27.09) 54 Robinson, Brand UC Davis 1:45.54 23.64 50.03 (26.39) 1:17.64 (27.61) 1:45.54 (27.90) 55 Houston, Craig TXLA 1:45.63 23.59 53.20 (29.61) 1:16.75 (23.55) 1:45.63 (28.88) 56 Calenti, Tony Arizona St 1:46.88 25.37 52.38 (27.01) 1:19.63 (27.25) 1:46.88 (27.25) 57 Donnelly, Danie UC Davis 1:48.56 25.26 52.84 (27.58) 1:20.70 (27.86) 1:48.56 (27.86)
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