So I finally got some video of myself and my son up. This is the first time I'm seeing myself swim, and I'm horrified, lol.
My self-critique: Elbows not high enough, not extending arms very well, arms crossing midline a little on extension, and extending hand almost pushing water a little. Please feel free to add anything, and I'd appreciate advice on drills to address my specific weaknesses (and my son's).
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My son's critique: Elbows drop some, he tends to pull a little too much to the outside rather than down the middle, and his left arm tends to go left on extension. Believe it or not he's much faster than the last time I posted video, he's gotten his 25m time down to 26 sec from 45 when the season started. Please add anything.
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Thanks guys.
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if you sidearm your overarm recovery, the curvilinear path that your arm takes will take longer to follow, theoretically, than the more straight path followed by a bent-arm recovery.
I'm not sure why you say the straight arm recovery is theoretically slower. The upper arm will follow essentially the same path. Your hand follows a longer path but it is just along for the ride on the upper arm so it follows that longer path at a faster speed ending up in the same place at the same time. Stroke rate has never been limited by recovery time anyway, the pull and body roll are always the limiting factors. If anything the straight arm pull may require slightly more energy to accelerate, but again, that's not usually a limiting factor.
Taruky: on the discrepancy between what coaches say to do and what swimmers actually do Jonty Skinner wrote an interesting article on the effect of scy training on technique, including this quote:
Granted there might be a number of different ways to describe this process, but without a doubt the majority of coaches in world would agree on one fact. That the anchor or catch mechanics should involve an elbow position that is higher than the wrist/hand position. Looking at figure 1, coaches might argue as to the specific angles of the joints, but I believe all might agree that the upper and lower arm components would be on distinctly different planes. However, after reviewing underwater footage of hundreds of swimmers, I find that the majority don’t employ this kind of technique at all. After continuing to ask coaches to describe their opinion of the catch or anchor position I continued to find a huge discrepancy between what coaches were describing, and what was actually occurring in the water.
www.usaswimming.org/.../ViewMiscArticle.aspx
(emphasis added by me) The article does explain why the bent elbow is better for lcm and why swimmers tend to use the straighter arm technique when training scy.
if you sidearm your overarm recovery, the curvilinear path that your arm takes will take longer to follow, theoretically, than the more straight path followed by a bent-arm recovery.
I'm not sure why you say the straight arm recovery is theoretically slower. The upper arm will follow essentially the same path. Your hand follows a longer path but it is just along for the ride on the upper arm so it follows that longer path at a faster speed ending up in the same place at the same time. Stroke rate has never been limited by recovery time anyway, the pull and body roll are always the limiting factors. If anything the straight arm pull may require slightly more energy to accelerate, but again, that's not usually a limiting factor.
Taruky: on the discrepancy between what coaches say to do and what swimmers actually do Jonty Skinner wrote an interesting article on the effect of scy training on technique, including this quote:
Granted there might be a number of different ways to describe this process, but without a doubt the majority of coaches in world would agree on one fact. That the anchor or catch mechanics should involve an elbow position that is higher than the wrist/hand position. Looking at figure 1, coaches might argue as to the specific angles of the joints, but I believe all might agree that the upper and lower arm components would be on distinctly different planes. However, after reviewing underwater footage of hundreds of swimmers, I find that the majority don’t employ this kind of technique at all. After continuing to ask coaches to describe their opinion of the catch or anchor position I continued to find a huge discrepancy between what coaches were describing, and what was actually occurring in the water.
www.usaswimming.org/.../ViewMiscArticle.aspx
(emphasis added by me) The article does explain why the bent elbow is better for lcm and why swimmers tend to use the straighter arm technique when training scy.