So I finally got some video of myself and my son up. This is the first time I'm seeing myself swim, and I'm horrified, lol.
My self-critique: Elbows not high enough, not extending arms very well, arms crossing midline a little on extension, and extending hand almost pushing water a little. Please feel free to add anything, and I'd appreciate advice on drills to address my specific weaknesses (and my son's).
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My son's critique: Elbows drop some, he tends to pull a little too much to the outside rather than down the middle, and his left arm tends to go left on extension. Believe it or not he's much faster than the last time I posted video, he's gotten his 25m time down to 26 sec from 45 when the season started. Please add anything.
www.youtube.com/watchwww.youtube.com/watch
Thanks guys.
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OK, so I've been watching this video over and over:
www.youtube.com/watch
Lindsey, you mention that in that top frame, you see the palm of turuky's hand, and i'm pretty sure i know why.
when turuky submerges his hand into the water, he -- as we have already mentioned -- pushes the water a bit. i counted time on the strokes from when the hand enters to when the hand begins its pull. 1 complete second. it seems to me that what turuky is doing is not so much consciously pushing the water after all, but simply riding the wave a bit. he's zipping his hand forward through the water, and -- like any good aerofoil -- it catches air, so to speak. as the hand catches lift from the resistance it meets up front, it causes the hand to move skyward. thus, we see his palm. at the end of that extension forward, then he begins his catch, starting from an upward hand position.
so, my advice to turuky:
your pull should continue under your body using your hand and forearm as an oar. at the point where your hand-forearm oar bisects your body into its top and bottom halves, you will find that following through with your push requires that your forearm break form to allow your hand to continue on the same path. When your hand reaches the thigh, you will find that the hand can no longer follow along the path. you've simply run out of arm (arm A, we'll say). to get your hand back to your side, you have to push the water to the outside and behind you. At that point where your hand pushes the water to the outside, that is when you rock your body a bit. the shoulder on the same side as the hand pushing outward should rock upward. the shoulder on the other arm (arm B) will, thus naturally rock a bit downward.
if you've ever reached under a bed to get something deep underneath, you know that you can get that little bit more out of your arm by dropping your shoulder. that's the idea with arm B. when your hand on arm A reaches the end of its path and needs to push to the outside, that is when your other hand-forearm oar on arm B should dive into the water. as the one hand on arm A pushes to the outside as that shoulder lifts a bit, the other shoulder on arm B should dip just enough to allow the hand of arm B to thrust forward underwater just that little bit more before starting the catch. it should be the smallest fraction of a second, not a full second count, and arm B's drive forward in such a manner should be powered by the finish of the hand on arm A. As soon as the hand on arm A finishes to the outside, the hand-forearm oar on arm B should start pulling. A quick recap: the hand on arm B entered the water in the form of the hand-forearm oar and did not break position as it reached that last bit forward or as it started its catch. it won't begin to break position until it must at the point where the oar bisects your body. thus, the palm will never be seen, as that would require breaking form on the hand-forearm oar.
i hope that's helpful and not too confusing.
--Sean
OK, so I've been watching this video over and over:
www.youtube.com/watch
Lindsey, you mention that in that top frame, you see the palm of turuky's hand, and i'm pretty sure i know why.
when turuky submerges his hand into the water, he -- as we have already mentioned -- pushes the water a bit. i counted time on the strokes from when the hand enters to when the hand begins its pull. 1 complete second. it seems to me that what turuky is doing is not so much consciously pushing the water after all, but simply riding the wave a bit. he's zipping his hand forward through the water, and -- like any good aerofoil -- it catches air, so to speak. as the hand catches lift from the resistance it meets up front, it causes the hand to move skyward. thus, we see his palm. at the end of that extension forward, then he begins his catch, starting from an upward hand position.
so, my advice to turuky:
your pull should continue under your body using your hand and forearm as an oar. at the point where your hand-forearm oar bisects your body into its top and bottom halves, you will find that following through with your push requires that your forearm break form to allow your hand to continue on the same path. When your hand reaches the thigh, you will find that the hand can no longer follow along the path. you've simply run out of arm (arm A, we'll say). to get your hand back to your side, you have to push the water to the outside and behind you. At that point where your hand pushes the water to the outside, that is when you rock your body a bit. the shoulder on the same side as the hand pushing outward should rock upward. the shoulder on the other arm (arm B) will, thus naturally rock a bit downward.
if you've ever reached under a bed to get something deep underneath, you know that you can get that little bit more out of your arm by dropping your shoulder. that's the idea with arm B. when your hand on arm A reaches the end of its path and needs to push to the outside, that is when your other hand-forearm oar on arm B should dive into the water. as the one hand on arm A pushes to the outside as that shoulder lifts a bit, the other shoulder on arm B should dip just enough to allow the hand of arm B to thrust forward underwater just that little bit more before starting the catch. it should be the smallest fraction of a second, not a full second count, and arm B's drive forward in such a manner should be powered by the finish of the hand on arm A. As soon as the hand on arm A finishes to the outside, the hand-forearm oar on arm B should start pulling. A quick recap: the hand on arm B entered the water in the form of the hand-forearm oar and did not break position as it reached that last bit forward or as it started its catch. it won't begin to break position until it must at the point where the oar bisects your body. thus, the palm will never be seen, as that would require breaking form on the hand-forearm oar.
i hope that's helpful and not too confusing.
--Sean