100m butterfly - Cavic beats Phelps?

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VIDEO: Men's 100m Butterfly - Heat 9 1 Milorad CAVIC SRB 50.76 OR 2 Michael PHELPS USA 50.87 3 Andrii SERDINOV 7 UKR 51.10 . . .
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    This is the swim as Canadian watched it www.cbc.ca/.../
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    Phelps is :censor: smart, cavic won´t sleep for a month trying to realize how was that possible...
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    There's ana amazing underwater photo of the finish on the front page of si.com. Go check it out.
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    There's an amazing underwater photo of the finish on the front page of si.com. Go check it out. When you look at it from this underwater, beneath the swimmers and in-between them, angle, you can see that Michael's right-hand touches the wall before Cavic's extended fingers. Notice the air bubbles under Michael's armpits and around his feet while Cavic seems to be striving for a 10 in Diving (he's just trailing his legs and feet). I can see why the Serbs might have doubted even the on-site photos. All the shots that I have seen (NBC and CBC) where from Milorad's left (pointing from lane 3 or 2). From that angle, Cavic's hands seem to touch before Micahel's left hand, whereas the SI.com photo shows Michael's right-hand touching first. This, now, raises another interesting question: What's the minimum time difference between the actual touch of both hands for a stroke (such as fly or ***) to be considered as "touching together"? This last question is hypothetical of course; the clock stops at the first "real" touch.
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    I was wondering what the smallest amount of time the human eye can see/detect. does anyone know.
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    When you look at it from this underwater, beneath the swimmers and in-between them, angle, you can see that Michael's right-hand touches the wall before Cavic's extended fingers. From that angle, Cavic's hands seem to touch before Micahel's left hand, whereas the SI.com photo shows Michael's right-hand touching first. This, now, raises another interesting question: What's the minimum time difference between the actual touch of both hands for a stroke (such as fly or ***) to be considered as "touching together"? This last question is hypothetical of course; the clock stops at the first "real" touch. I was wondering the same thing, Ahmed. Who knows, maybe most "simultaneous" touches are separated by a split of a split of a second? We just don't see that kind of still photo very often.
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    Excellent pic from SI. Save it to your PC and open in MS Office Picture Manager or something similar and blow it up to 800%. Pretty conclusive. I was wondering the same thing, Ahmed. Who knows, maybe most "simultaneous" touches are separated by a split of a split of a second? We just don't see that kind of still photo very often.
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    I was wondering what the smallest amount of time the human eye can see/detect. does anyone know. I don't know the exact answer, but I believe that ordinary broadcast TV shows about 30 frames per second and I don't think anyone can detect the frames. So the answer is probably more than 1/30 of a second. (By the way, that's another reason not to trust what you think you saw on TV -- regardless of whether your eye can detect 1/100 of a second, TV doesn't show that.)