I'm sorry but.....

Former Member
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....our women are disappointing. Youth is not helping us. Good swims from Magnuson, Soni, Coughlin, and Torres. Any others?
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    I swam against the Chinese national teams when I was in high school (we were an American team made up of Chinese Americans). It was 1981 and we blew them out of the water. (And we were just low ranking All-American high-school swimmers ... no future superstars out of us!) Their pools were unclean and they had just heard of pace clocks. They hire E. German coaches and 10 years later their women show up looking like men and break major sprint records. I called it dirty. Eventually evidency came out to back me up. 4 years later I watched Inke de Brujin (sp?) race and called her dirty. Too much drop in too little time. Even our own Balco-spiced American Van Dyken coudln't take her with everything she had in her system. De Bruijin is as dirty as FloJo was. Now France has four guys going sub-22 in the 50? FOUR? I heard it from one the mouth of one of the best sprint coaches in the world. "There's no way that's clean. I can out coach our comptetition's swimmers. I can't out couch drugs." Back on topic ... China has done some excellent coaching changes. Their starts and turns are top rate (better starts than most Americans minus Coughlan and those other with good SDK's) But when I see that 800 free relay, my gut tells me China's silver is dirty. Whether it's EPO, HGH, or genetic manipulation the women are coming back too hard in these middle distance events. And given the fact the the NY Times exposed China's forging of their gymnasts age to win gold shows how are they are willing to go. I love China -- the country of my heritage. I love the brilliance of its history, medicine, philosophy, and literature. I am NOT happy with its government, it's win-at-any-cost-attitude, and it's carbon footprint. Of course, I'm not happy with our goverment, it's head-in-the-sand-attitude (really, Mr. Bush? You're attending the OLYMPICS GAMES??? I have friends at war right now) ... and our carbon footprint is certainly soiled. The difference here is I can say it (or write it here) without worry of censureship or a knock on the door tonite. I hope!
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    I swam against the Chinese national teams when I was in high school (we were an American team made up of Chinese Americans). It was 1981 and we blew them out of the water. (And we were just low ranking All-American high-school swimmers ... no future superstars out of us!) Their pools were unclean and they had just heard of pace clocks. They hire E. German coaches and 10 years later their women show up looking like men and break major sprint records. I called it dirty. Eventually evidency came out to back me up. 4 years later I watched Inke de Brujin (sp?) race and called her dirty. Too much drop in too little time. Even our own Balco-spiced American Van Dyken coudln't take her with everything she had in her system. De Bruijin is as dirty as FloJo was. Now France has four guys going sub-22 in the 50? FOUR? I heard it from one the mouth of one of the best sprint coaches in the world. "There's no way that's clean. I can out coach our comptetition's swimmers. I can't out couch drugs." Back on topic ... China has done some excellent coaching changes. Their starts and turns are top rate (better starts than most Americans minus Coughlan and those other with good SDK's) But when I see that 800 free relay, my gut tells me China's silver is dirty. Whether it's EPO, HGH, or genetic manipulation the women are coming back too hard in these middle distance events. And given the fact the the NY Times exposed China's forging of their gymnasts age to win gold shows how are they are willing to go. I love China -- the country of my heritage. I love the brilliance of its history, medicine, philosophy, and literature. I am NOT happy with its government, it's win-at-any-cost-attitude, and it's carbon footprint. Of course, I'm not happy with our goverment, it's head-in-the-sand-attitude (really, Mr. Bush? You're attending the OLYMPICS GAMES??? I have friends at war right now) ... and our carbon footprint is certainly soiled. The difference here is I can say it (or write it here) without worry of censureship or a knock on the door tonite. I hope!
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