Videos of Freestyle timing, pulling pattern, arm position

I can agree with the first part (as long as you don't really mean truly vertical) but in the second part are you saying no Olympic swimmer fully extends their arm to the front? I presume you aren't because lots of them do, so what exactly do you mean? No swimmer leaves the front arm fully extended for very long? What is your opinion on Popov's stroke as shown here: www.youtube.com/watch I would say he has near zero front quadrant overlap, the pulling hand leaves the front quadrant as the recovering hand enters it. Perhaps that is a way to understand "front quadrant swimming" which, as I have said is a spectrum or degree not something that has an opposite. The more front quadrant overlap there is between the pulling and recovering arms the more "front quadrant" the stroke is. Popov has near zero overlap, catchup drill has the maximum degree of overlap. Popov is much easier to discuss than Thorpe because Popov's stroke is pretty symmetric while Thorpe's is not. The two swimmers that demonstrate my point which wasn't very clear and I'm sorry about that, would be Rebecca Adlingtion and Alain Bernard. The portion of the stroke I was trying to talk about wasn't the extension but the begining of the catch. The young lady has an awesome EVF while Bernard's is present but as late as it can get. A vertical arm doesn't mean that the arm is actually straight but the difference in both swimmers is easy to recognize (Adlington's is bent throughout the stroke while Bernard's arm bend's little by comparison). I'll continue to use Rebecca Adlington as my poster child (swimmer) for EVF and correct timing of freestyle for all distances. There will always be variables and exceptions (body type, strength, flexibility, and endurance) but I think she demonstrates a template that all coaches should consider copying. What do you think?

I can agree with the first part (as long as you don't really mean truly vertical) but in the second part are you saying no Olympic swimmer fully extends their arm to the front? I presume you aren't because lots of them do, so what exactly do you mean? No swimmer leaves the front arm fully extended for very long? What is your opinion on Popov's stroke as shown here: www.youtube.com/watch I would say he has near zero front quadrant overlap, the pulling hand leaves the front quadrant as the recovering hand enters it. Perhaps that is a way to understand "front quadrant swimming" which, as I have said is a spectrum or degree not something that has an opposite. The more front quadrant overlap there is between the pulling and recovering arms the more "front quadrant" the stroke is. Popov has near zero overlap, catchup drill has the maximum degree of overlap. Popov is much easier to discuss than Thorpe because Popov's stroke is pretty symmetric while Thorpe's is not. The two swimmers that demonstrate my point which wasn't very clear and I'm sorry about that, would be Rebecca Adlingtion and Alain Bernard. The portion of the stroke I was trying to talk about wasn't the extension but the begining of the catch. The young lady has an awesome EVF while Bernard's is present but as late as it can get. A vertical arm doesn't mean that the arm is actually straight but the difference in both swimmers is easy to recognize (Adlington's is bent throughout the stroke while Bernard's arm bend's little by comparison). I'll continue to use Rebecca Adlington as my poster child (swimmer) for EVF and correct timing of freestyle for all distances. There will always be variables and exceptions (body type, strength, flexibility, and endurance) but I think she demonstrates a template that all coaches should consider copying. What do you think?