• Former Member
    Former Member
    Yep. I see she's already talking about her comeback and the 2012 Olympics. I know Angel Martino did it, but can Hardy survive the stigma? Well if she didn't ingest it intentionally then she'll probably make it through OK. It'll be interesting watch the all the evidence come to light and see if anything suspicious is going on.
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    Of course. I was ASSUMING, as indicated by my "yep," that she was taking it intentionally, as that is by far the most likely scenario. It is already beyond suspicion. beyond suspicion? you saw her?
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    I stand corrected...she cheated numerous times and got busted this time...is that more accurate? Do you really think the cheaters that get caught never cheated before? No - I assume most cheaters are serial cheaters and the ones that are caught....just didn't get caught before. As for the sudden improvement in freestyle - as someone pointed out way earlier (or was it another thread) - her breaststroke has not improved materially over the same period. So I don't doubt per se that her freestyle improvement could be due MOSTLY to training. Katie Hoff's freestyle has improved tremendously over the past two years. I don't doubt her methods.
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    Former Member
    Interesting article--- It looks like the Hardy PR machine is going to go with the supplements she was taking are at fault BS. Why can't anyone just step up to the plate and admit they cheated? I do not buy the supplement BS for two reasons. 1. She knows the Kicker ordeal well...very well actually. 2. These days every top ranked USA swimmer has attended MANY lectures educating them on supplements and the dangers surrounding them. She would have to be the dumbest moron on earth to NOT know full well the dangers of taking supplements. In fact, I think her deal with the supplement company may have intentionally been set up by her and the people who gave her the PED as a scape goat in the event she did get caught using PED. Now, she can play the Ms. Innocent nonsense and point the finger at the supplement company. www.signonsandiego.com/.../20080803-9999-7s3olynotes.html In the event she does bring suit against the supplement manufacturer, and she is ever exposed to have intentionally used PED, then she has committed perjury which IS a criminal offense punishable with JAIL TIME.
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    On average, aren't supplements taken every day - just like us mortals taking our vitamins or the birth control pill on a daily basis? If Hardy was taking contaminated vitamins, don't you think that the clen would have been in every single one of her tests at Trials?
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Jessica Hardy has been kicked off the team and should be given some sort of huge suspension, up to and including lifetime. There- that is how I feel, straight out. HOWEVER- I am upset at the Geek and Paul (becoming a duo in their own right) continue to appear to ignore Lindsey's main point in a patently obtuse and combative manner. He is not arguing that she is not responsible for what she takes into her own body (in the highly unlikely 'contaminated supplement' scenario) nor is he quarreling with her being punished. In a quixotic way he is trying only to say that he is witholding his full moral condemnation pending any PROVEN extenuating circumstances (however unlikely that may be). Why not move on? Geek, you are venturing into the ionosphere and quite frankly, you can do better than that.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Sarah: I thought that same thing and that is logical. But, someone posted that she MAY have opened another bottle or can of juice that was tainted--- The whole line they are tossing out there is complete nonsense---
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Sarah: I thought that same thing and that is logical. But, someone posted that she MAY have opened another bottle or can of juice that was tainted--- The whole line they are tossing out there is complete nonsense--- It does seem very logical... along with no fight to stay on the olympic team and blaming supplements - it sounds like she's been cheating.
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    Former Member
    Well Sarah, as Geek pointed out---when it's quacking, waddles, has a cute little tail of feathers and a neat beak---chances are it's not a Giraffe---
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    Former Member
    Supplement contamination is not a matter of opinion or assertion, it is a matter of verifiable scientific testing in a lab. If Hardy can't show that her supplements are contaminated then the whole supplements angle won't get her anywhere. Has Hardy herself blamed supplements or in fact given any specific "excuse"? All I have read so far is her lawyer saying he has a lead without specifying the nature of that lead.