I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked back into this, but apparently I'm not getting an adequate dose of pain these days...
A person (say, Smith By Marriage) has a knife in her hand and she is standing over the dead body of a man (say, a Smith by Birth). When asked if she has killed SBB, SBM says yes. At this point, I think we can all agree that SBM is a murderer. Based on what I've read, I am sure that Lindsey and Tracy would agree as well, as would I. If SBM killed SBB because he made a snotty comment in a USMS forum about her getting her swimsuit on, she gets a ticket to terminal dreamland. If she was slicing tomatoes and SBB tripped over his own klutzy feet and fell into the knife, she gets a lesser sentence.
And that is, I think ,what some of us have been saying: Before we fry her completely, we'd like to KNOW what actually happened. Did JH test positive for clenbuterol: YES. But, is she just stupid (for, say, taking tainted supplements) or evil (for deliberately doping)? Until all the facts are in, I have the luxury of being able to wait to decide if she is worse than stupid and shall do so.
(I realize that if SBM knifed SBB because he said that her swimsuit made her butt look fat she'd get off scott-free if there were women on the jury, but we have to accept that the system isn't perfect. Even you, Geek, need to admit that some things are above the law.)
-LBJ
without getting into a buch of legal minutia, murder is generally the the unlawful intentional killing of one human being by another.
While SBM may have killed SBB, SBM in not necessarily a murderer. It could have been accidental, self defense, or justifiable.
Which kind of like JH, she tested positive for a banned substance, thus her performance doesn't count, and she's not eligible for the Olympics.
Under the rules governing elite athletes, she's guilty of doping, and banned from competition (for two years for a first offense)
The point many seem to be overlooking, is that under the same rules, she is entitled to an appeal to USADA and CAS. And unlike major league baseball where a player is 'innocent' and can play until his appeal is resolved, JH is guilty until she can demonstrate that the positive test was somehow invalid, or there are some extenuating/mitigating circumstances that might reduce her ban.
(btw I voted that she knowingly used a banned substance in the poll)
I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked back into this, but apparently I'm not getting an adequate dose of pain these days...
A person (say, Smith By Marriage) has a knife in her hand and she is standing over the dead body of a man (say, a Smith by Birth). When asked if she has killed SBB, SBM says yes. At this point, I think we can all agree that SBM is a murderer. Based on what I've read, I am sure that Lindsey and Tracy would agree as well, as would I. If SBM killed SBB because he made a snotty comment in a USMS forum about her getting her swimsuit on, she gets a ticket to terminal dreamland. If she was slicing tomatoes and SBB tripped over his own klutzy feet and fell into the knife, she gets a lesser sentence.
And that is, I think ,what some of us have been saying: Before we fry her completely, we'd like to KNOW what actually happened. Did JH test positive for clenbuterol: YES. But, is she just stupid (for, say, taking tainted supplements) or evil (for deliberately doping)? Until all the facts are in, I have the luxury of being able to wait to decide if she is worse than stupid and shall do so.
(I realize that if SBM knifed SBB because he said that her swimsuit made her butt look fat she'd get off scott-free if there were women on the jury, but we have to accept that the system isn't perfect. Even you, Geek, need to admit that some things are above the law.)
-LBJ
without getting into a buch of legal minutia, murder is generally the the unlawful intentional killing of one human being by another.
While SBM may have killed SBB, SBM in not necessarily a murderer. It could have been accidental, self defense, or justifiable.
Which kind of like JH, she tested positive for a banned substance, thus her performance doesn't count, and she's not eligible for the Olympics.
Under the rules governing elite athletes, she's guilty of doping, and banned from competition (for two years for a first offense)
The point many seem to be overlooking, is that under the same rules, she is entitled to an appeal to USADA and CAS. And unlike major league baseball where a player is 'innocent' and can play until his appeal is resolved, JH is guilty until she can demonstrate that the positive test was somehow invalid, or there are some extenuating/mitigating circumstances that might reduce her ban.
(btw I voted that she knowingly used a banned substance in the poll)
