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    I do know that JH is a lying cheater Intent is irrelevant This is where we differ with no apparent likelihood of reaching agreement. I feel that intent is relevant to whether someone is a lying cheater. You apparently do not. In the course of the various threads we've had three examples of athletes that tested positive and certainly committed doping violations but aren't in my opinion "lying cheaters", certainly no evidence that they lied has been brought up.
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  • Former Member
    Former Member
    I do know that JH is a lying cheater Intent is irrelevant This is where we differ with no apparent likelihood of reaching agreement. I feel that intent is relevant to whether someone is a lying cheater. You apparently do not. In the course of the various threads we've had three examples of athletes that tested positive and certainly committed doping violations but aren't in my opinion "lying cheaters", certainly no evidence that they lied has been brought up.
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