I am not sure we realize how bad this will be for swimming and US swimming.
This will change how everybody looks at the US team from now on. The circumstances do not matter to the casual sports fan - they will only remember "US swimmer caught".
The medal winners will lose a lot of money on endorsements - USA swimming was the "clean" sport, the poster child of how to do it right. Not any more - any advertiser will now look at swimmers differently.
What about US trials - this will change how quickly the testing has to come back and how some 3rd place finisher may train after trials.
US Swimming - they have already screwed this up on 10 different levels. No press conference, 3 weeks after the fact, some web forum starts leaking the story, coaches and swimmers at the Olympic training camp know and they expect to keep this quiet ? Amateurs
Marion Jones was convicted of lying to federal investigators, thereby significantly thwarting two investigations, and of participating in a check-fraud scheme. She was incarcerated on March 6 for 6 mos., so should be due for release around September 6. These are not the types of crimes that get ppl out of jail early or their sentence commuted.
Following is from one of several similar news reports at the time (my bold):
"The former Olympic track gold medalist was sentenced to six months in prison Friday for lying to investigators about using performance-enhancing drugs and her role in a check-fraud scam.
... U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas, who sentenced her ...
said Jones damaged two federal investigations with lies that came years apart, so "I don't think the criminal conduct can be written off as a momentary lapse of judgment or a one-time mistake, but instead a repetition of an attempt to break the law."
The check-fraud scheme was a major crime and the wide use of steroids "affects the integrity of athletic competition," he said. "
Gull I do not drink except when on Vacation. I happen to limit myself to one or two drinks at that time. You should be so good. I guess drunks can't read too well here.
George, I think that Gull was pointing out the faults in your expressions, not implying that you were a souse! Most drunks I know read plenty well, it's just a matter of showing up for work when they're supposed to!
#3 is just a jilted ex USADA executive looking to ruffle some feathers, like Canseco and Mitchell!;) Carl Lewis would never have cheated. Have you ever heard him speak, he definitely doesn't sound like someone who has used steroids! Plus, if you look at Ben Johnson's pictures from the World Championships the year before and then again at his pictures from the Olympics, you'll notice a faily impressive change in physique!
George, I think that Gull was pointing out the faults in your expressions, not implying that you were a souse! Most drunks I know read plenty well, it's just a matter of showing up for work when they're supposed to!
If you got caught would you lie?
Would it be a lie if you did not know you were doing wrong?
Was what she took always illegal?
Would she be lieing if she took this before it was banned?
So many questions have not been answered.
Could she have involked the 5th ammendment when they questioned her???
Should we blame her if she had a dumbo for a lawyer??
Hard to believe you are actually supporting Jones now. It seems you are completely and totally unwilling to ever accept anyone is a doper and, in this case, a convicted felon as a direct result of her doping actions.
You do realize that she has admitted to everything, right, and has asked for a presidential pardon? Or, do you not have TV or newspapers where you live?
My brother Bill was a heavy drinker A bottle of Canadian Club every night What you call a fifth. He never missed a day of work, never touched a drop during the day.
Carl Lewis and Lance Armstrong innocent as the driven snow. Don't count on them always being clean. I would never place a bet on those two.
So, because your brother was an alcoholic we are supposed to think that Carl Lewis and Lance Armstrong weren't clean?
Would it be a lie if you did not know you were doing wrong?
It only became lying after she found out she was doing something wrong and still lied about it.
It only became lying after she found out she was doing something wrong and still lied about it.
Sorry, USA Swimming provides SOOOOOO many seminars, handouts, pamphlets, web sites, clinics, etc.... that swimming at the elite level and not knowing that taking Clenbuterol is against the rules is pure sophistry.
What is that phrase again? Ah, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Granted this is not a US Law, per se but it sure as heck is a USADA and WADA rule.
Paul
Sorry, USA Swimming provides SOOOOOO many seminars, handouts, pamphlets, web sites, clinics, etc.... that swimming at the elite level and not knowing that taking Clenbuterol is against the rules is pure sophistry.
What is that phrase again? Ah, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Granted this is not a US Law, per se but it sure as heck is a USADA and WADA rule.
Paul
I should have said, "It only became lying after she was caught doing something she didn't know was wrong and then proceeded to lie about it!"
And I whole-heartedly agree, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
He was not an achoholic he was a heavy drinker. His consumption of alcohol never interferred with his life. He never missed a day of work, never drank and drove. He was a great parent. He drank booze after being poisoned by Chlorine Gas in a work related accident that burned his lungs so badly that he suffered with pain and emphazima for the next ten years until he died. Thanks for you wonderful kind thoughts.
I am so happy you think your two hero's were clean, am I allowed to have my opinion.
Whatever George, you've totally lost it.
Do you really think this man was on steroids
Really doesn't matter what I think. Why do you continue to bring up 20 year old news? You realize it is the 2000s now, right?
