From what i have heard, from several credible sources, someone on the us women's team tested positive. As of now only the persons family, roommate, and usa swimming know, but im sure it will begin to leak out. Nothing matters though until we get results of the B test.. which could be a few days or even weeks. Not sure when the test was taken, but probably trials. I will try to post more information when I get it, but if anyone could confirm or post what they know, im sure it would be appreciated
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Yes, she tested positive and will have to abide by whatever outcome the process dictates from here. But that is separate from whether this was a horrible plan or horrible mistake.
/sarcasm on
Daaaave this is the wrong crowd for that kind of reason and detracted emotion. Here "horrible mistakes" are merely signalling incorrectly in traffiic, or not calling your Mother on Mother's day etc Doping and the like is justification for being grouped with murderers and rapists.
Be assured, this is an absolute planned heresy by Jessica to bring down the USA swim program. Don't be surprised if it comes out that she's a sleeper for Al Qaeda or something to boot.
/sarcasm off
I see it a bit like you, that she messed up and has to pay the price, but the "Pitchfork n Blazing Torch Ustashe" trip is a bit much.
I am not sad that she got caught--it's a good thing. I am not feeling sad for her because she's been booted (unless something shows this is not her doing). I think it is sad that people choose to do this type of thing, because the don't see the bigger picture of their health and other peoples situation, and yes I feel very sad for others that miss out because of it.
Self centeredness is at the heart of most offices and work places in the race for promotion and gain, some is malicious and nasty, and some just "rational self interest," why is Sports supposed to be any different? That's the American/Capitalist way--you can't expect everyone to worry about those in their destructive wake. That's the deal, but you have the same chance to do it yourself. The "screw you" attitude is especially rampant in the NE, and that's just driving to the train or office, or a blooming yard sale.
I respect and like most of the outraged posters here, I feel for them if they've been a victim of this sort of thing, or just dislike it on principal. I just can't quite reconcile some of the stances with the situation. She'll be punished and rightly so, but put it in perspective. Increase the financial penalty on her; have Tara Kirk sue her, fine; ban dopers for good, that's appropriate.
As for sitting in judgement, think back to college years, you ever do something really stupid but not get caught? Ever get behind the wheel just a tiny bit over the limit or that sort of thing. If it wasn't you I bet you know a friend that did, ready to have them suffer the severe penalties? Young people do reckless and short sighted things, some don't it's the same old story.
If it was any of your kids; I'd take the same stance; they have to face the music but it's not for me to dictate what the punishment is.
She's only 21, the same 21 as some guys and girls get killed in Iraq/Afghanistan. I shake my head and think they're just kids. Not "they're grown adults, they knew the risks, it's their lookout."
Yes, she tested positive and will have to abide by whatever outcome the process dictates from here. But that is separate from whether this was a horrible plan or horrible mistake.
/sarcasm on
Daaaave this is the wrong crowd for that kind of reason and detracted emotion. Here "horrible mistakes" are merely signalling incorrectly in traffiic, or not calling your Mother on Mother's day etc Doping and the like is justification for being grouped with murderers and rapists.
Be assured, this is an absolute planned heresy by Jessica to bring down the USA swim program. Don't be surprised if it comes out that she's a sleeper for Al Qaeda or something to boot.
/sarcasm off
I see it a bit like you, that she messed up and has to pay the price, but the "Pitchfork n Blazing Torch Ustashe" trip is a bit much.
I am not sad that she got caught--it's a good thing. I am not feeling sad for her because she's been booted (unless something shows this is not her doing). I think it is sad that people choose to do this type of thing, because the don't see the bigger picture of their health and other peoples situation, and yes I feel very sad for others that miss out because of it.
Self centeredness is at the heart of most offices and work places in the race for promotion and gain, some is malicious and nasty, and some just "rational self interest," why is Sports supposed to be any different? That's the American/Capitalist way--you can't expect everyone to worry about those in their destructive wake. That's the deal, but you have the same chance to do it yourself. The "screw you" attitude is especially rampant in the NE, and that's just driving to the train or office, or a blooming yard sale.
I respect and like most of the outraged posters here, I feel for them if they've been a victim of this sort of thing, or just dislike it on principal. I just can't quite reconcile some of the stances with the situation. She'll be punished and rightly so, but put it in perspective. Increase the financial penalty on her; have Tara Kirk sue her, fine; ban dopers for good, that's appropriate.
As for sitting in judgement, think back to college years, you ever do something really stupid but not get caught? Ever get behind the wheel just a tiny bit over the limit or that sort of thing. If it wasn't you I bet you know a friend that did, ready to have them suffer the severe penalties? Young people do reckless and short sighted things, some don't it's the same old story.
If it was any of your kids; I'd take the same stance; they have to face the music but it's not for me to dictate what the punishment is.
She's only 21, the same 21 as some guys and girls get killed in Iraq/Afghanistan. I shake my head and think they're just kids. Not "they're grown adults, they knew the risks, it's their lookout."