From what i have heard, from several credible sources, someone on the us women's team tested positive. As of now only the persons family, roommate, and usa swimming know, but im sure it will begin to leak out. Nothing matters though until we get results of the B test.. which could be a few days or even weeks. Not sure when the test was taken, but probably trials. I will try to post more information when I get it, but if anyone could confirm or post what they know, im sure it would be appreciated
You know what's really sad- I read something someone on a cycling forum wrote after Floyd's test from the TdF came back positive, and I thought "whatever this guy's a whack-job". But now I can see where he was coming from. He wrote "They're all cheaters folks. Just some of them don't get caught."
Now of course he may have been talking strictly cycling, but you seriously have to wonder. Even if it was unintentional, all of these athletes take all kinds of supplements and dietary aids to assist their training. They are already ingesting various chemical compounds to enhance their performance, true? Whether or not the substance shows up on the "banned" list, are they not "performance-enhancing drugs"?
Rain man is spot on with his assessment of the situation. Most top level athletes are "cheating". So called smart athletes have realized they can take "natural" products or stuff that is naturally found in the body. It is difficult to test for substances that are already in the human body.
Those doing drug tests don’t have a whole lot of options. For the most part, testers have threshold levels of specific “drugs” they look for. These threshold levels are actually higher than any drug free athletes would have in their blood stream, but they give a cushion so that no innocent athletes are found guilty. This is valued over some innocent athletes being wrongly blamed while catching almost all so called cheaters.
And has anyone heard about Dara Torres and her drug testing schedule. She does voluntary drug tests. Heck, I would too if I was taking drugs to cheat. The key to successful cheating is to take just enough drug to stay under the threshold set for a positive test. In order to do that, you have to be testing yourself frequently. Why not take a public test right after your "secret" test. It is a hell of a lot better than being randomly tested.
Has anyone here on this message board who does not take performance enhancing drugs ever though of being drug tested?
As for the issue on supplements, it has been shown that many of them have illegal substances in them. That is why bodybuilders take them!!! Protein shakes just aren't going to do it.
I was recently at a strength and conditioning symposium where a gentleman from England was presenting results from his testing of commercial supplements. He owned a company that tested supplements for the manufactures to make sure there were not illegal substances in them. Many manufacturers want to be able to assure the athletes taking them that they will not have positive test results when being drug tested.
Not surprisingly well over 3/4th of the supplements he tested had illegal substances in them.
His claim was that manufacturing takes place in factories that deal with a number of pharmaceuticals, which tend to get mixed in together. So, it is a very real possibility that if an athlete only tests positive once in their whole life, it may be due to taking a tainted batch of creatine or protein powder. It is also very likely they just did not monitor their blood levels closely enough while trying to cheat. Kidney function changes, liver function changes. Hydration levels change. Constant testing must be done if an athlete wants to cheat successfully. Or, do what Barry Bonds and many others have done.
Growth hormone is naturally found in the body, and it has a very short half life. He never tested positive for it because it just gets out of the system too fast.
You know what's really sad- I read something someone on a cycling forum wrote after Floyd's test from the TdF came back positive, and I thought "whatever this guy's a whack-job". But now I can see where he was coming from. He wrote "They're all cheaters folks. Just some of them don't get caught."
Now of course he may have been talking strictly cycling, but you seriously have to wonder. Even if it was unintentional, all of these athletes take all kinds of supplements and dietary aids to assist their training. They are already ingesting various chemical compounds to enhance their performance, true? Whether or not the substance shows up on the "banned" list, are they not "performance-enhancing drugs"?
Rain man is spot on with his assessment of the situation. Most top level athletes are "cheating". So called smart athletes have realized they can take "natural" products or stuff that is naturally found in the body. It is difficult to test for substances that are already in the human body.
Those doing drug tests don’t have a whole lot of options. For the most part, testers have threshold levels of specific “drugs” they look for. These threshold levels are actually higher than any drug free athletes would have in their blood stream, but they give a cushion so that no innocent athletes are found guilty. This is valued over some innocent athletes being wrongly blamed while catching almost all so called cheaters.
And has anyone heard about Dara Torres and her drug testing schedule. She does voluntary drug tests. Heck, I would too if I was taking drugs to cheat. The key to successful cheating is to take just enough drug to stay under the threshold set for a positive test. In order to do that, you have to be testing yourself frequently. Why not take a public test right after your "secret" test. It is a hell of a lot better than being randomly tested.
Has anyone here on this message board who does not take performance enhancing drugs ever though of being drug tested?
As for the issue on supplements, it has been shown that many of them have illegal substances in them. That is why bodybuilders take them!!! Protein shakes just aren't going to do it.
I was recently at a strength and conditioning symposium where a gentleman from England was presenting results from his testing of commercial supplements. He owned a company that tested supplements for the manufactures to make sure there were not illegal substances in them. Many manufacturers want to be able to assure the athletes taking them that they will not have positive test results when being drug tested.
Not surprisingly well over 3/4th of the supplements he tested had illegal substances in them.
His claim was that manufacturing takes place in factories that deal with a number of pharmaceuticals, which tend to get mixed in together. So, it is a very real possibility that if an athlete only tests positive once in their whole life, it may be due to taking a tainted batch of creatine or protein powder. It is also very likely they just did not monitor their blood levels closely enough while trying to cheat. Kidney function changes, liver function changes. Hydration levels change. Constant testing must be done if an athlete wants to cheat successfully. Or, do what Barry Bonds and many others have done.
Growth hormone is naturally found in the body, and it has a very short half life. He never tested positive for it because it just gets out of the system too fast.
