Yes - one more time it's about the suit:
Here is a comparison to 2004 and what it took to make top 16 (top 8 for the 400) over the first 7 events:
2004 listed first then 2008 then the approx. % drop
400 IM - 4:24.8 to 4:21.0 1.5%
100 Fly - 1:01.29 to 59.97 2%
400 Free - 3:55.0 to 3:51.4 1.6%
400 IM - 4:49.57 to 4:43.2 2.3%
100 Br - 1:04.0 to 1:02.36 2.5%
100 Bk - 1:04.12 to 1:02.31 2.6%
200 Free - 1:51.1 to 1:48.76 2.2%
Ok - to be fair, people are getting faster, but I would guess at least a 1.5% drop across the board for the suit -- that is net time !
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Do not come up with phony numbers here - how lame is that. The average age of the top 16 prelim swimmers in the 200 Free for 2004 was 23.2 and in 2008 it was 23.0 --- I am guessing we are putting that theory to rest ?
check your math. besides, the 2004 number for 16 is skewed by the appearance of josh davis, who was a non-factor as a distant 16th. if you compare the finals of all trials, you will see a shift to more professionals. if you can't see it, you're doing all you can to ignore what's obviously in front of all of us. none of what i said removed the possibility of a suit helping, it just goes against your single-minded notion of all of the time drops being completely due to the suit. objectivity please?
Do not come up with phony numbers here - how lame is that. The average age of the top 16 prelim swimmers in the 200 Free for 2004 was 23.2 and in 2008 it was 23.0 --- I am guessing we are putting that theory to rest ?
check your math. besides, the 2004 number for 16 is skewed by the appearance of josh davis, who was a non-factor as a distant 16th. if you compare the finals of all trials, you will see a shift to more professionals. if you can't see it, you're doing all you can to ignore what's obviously in front of all of us. none of what i said removed the possibility of a suit helping, it just goes against your single-minded notion of all of the time drops being completely due to the suit. objectivity please?