Blue Seventy Nero Comp sizing

hey deano roque swam great br 29.5 1:03 2:18 im 58.9 2:07.9 4:32 all WRs today i wore b70 & went 100 im 1:00.3 natl rec 4 x 50 mr bk 27.41 relay broke 160 + wr went 1:45. 100 fr 54.6 tired 50 fl 26.3 tired 4 x 50 fr relay broke 160+ wr went 1:35.4 worn out

I've heard these suits will last longer than the LZR. What have others heard/experienced? Hey aquageek , Deano (Dean Jackson) here from blueseventy. I thought I should really say "hi" to you and the rest of the regular attendees of this forum. And I will make it clear that i work for blueseventy, you will see me on here only helping keep you informed on blueseventy should some questions arise, certainly will not be abusing this for commercial gain etc. We are as we say like "Switzerland" in the world of swimming, friends to all. The question re more wears a "blueseventy nero to a LZR?" Well I do not like to refer the two against each other as one is a composite and fully stretch skin without the restrictions to stretch (blueseventy) and the LZR is a woven material with a panel welded to the fabric, so different in construction. But what has to happen to any suit is: in order for the suit to maintain a fit time after time the outer panels or Skin would need to stretch more, or at least the same as the fabric beneath, and more importantly also be able to maintain a memory return to its original state (Otherwise stretch when putting on would be detrimental and sizing not consistent). The nero has 100% memory for the top and all the skin layers, this allows for great fit time, after time. Properly cared for this will last over a 25 swims, but what we cannot accomodate is the amount of chlorines used in some pools and the amount of times the suit is used for training and duration in a pool, and this as we know over time can destroy fabrics and they loose their original structure. The Lycra content in the suits is a high performance "power lycra" and will last like your traditional swimsuit. Remember to rinse and dry naturally inside out after each competition. As to the LZR? well i would refer to Speedo for comment and the memory retention of the panels on the suit...i am sure they will come to this forum to comment, they are good people. Thanks all, and great to see the feedback on the "nero", it will really help us make a "Better suit" If you have any questions please do ping me a private message, public message or mail me at dean@blueseventy.com Anyone know how Roque Santos went this weekend?

Good swims Ande --- My IM plans just got a bit harder ...

Properly cared for this will last over a 25 swims ... Remember to rinse and dry naturally inside out after each competition. Deano, Thanks for chiming in. I had a quick maintenance question: should I store this hanging or flat/lying down ... or does it matter? Just want to maximize my investment. I swam this weekend at the ASU meet for the 1st time in a B70 and was incredibly impressed with the fit and feel. I've not tried a LZR and had only really ever raced in jammers. I had tried a FS full length earlier in the year, but the fit on my scrawny chest just created too much ballooning. The B70 was nothing like that and was a significantly different feel. To be honest, I was quite skeptical about these suits and took a long time to come around. I'm a convert now. I'm looking forward to a couple more weeks of hard work and a taper to see how fast I can go in this sweet suit in early December.

Just an FYI. I received a B70 full body size 28 as a gift from my wife. I am 5'8, 175lbs, and 42/32 chest/waist. The B70 sizing guide says size 26 for someone my height but > 28 for my chest/waist. Thanks, Dan! Based on the excellent info from you, I've ordered and received a 24. It fits me very well and I'll swim a meet in it this weekend.

Thanks, Rich. Good comparative info. It'd be interesting to see how your Pro or Arena compares to the B70 too. Good luck in Long Beach, and I hope your shoulder feels better! Dean: B70 questions: What's up with the 25 swims cutoff? Is the suit just "no good" after that? What exactly happens at swim 25? After that, it fails to hold it's shape or loses all water repellancy or loses all buoyancy? Just no magic pixie dust left after 25 swims? Is the suit fastest with the first few uses? Does it degrade a little, or become less fast, each swim? What's the average distance you are estimating per "swim"? Do both 50s and 500s count as one "swim"? Do warm downs count in the 25 swims count?

Rich and Leslie, and maybe, if he happens to read this, Paul: When you say, Rich, you were swimming with "just a speedo" do you mean a FS of some sort, or just a practice suit? I am wondering if you think the B70 would give an advantage over a Fastskin 1? If so, how much? I have heard that it can be as much as .5 per 25, which would make a significant difference --a full second in the 50, 2 secs in the 100, 4 in the 200, a whopping 10 seconds in the 500! Even if this is overly optimistic, I am hoping that by some magic my swimming times, like my stock portfolio, could match the magic of yester decade! Until I can afford such a suit, do you think I could petition the powers that be in FINA and USMS to provide the "poor boy's handicap" and simply subtract my expected improvements from my actual times until I can scrape together one of these fountain of youth suits? Finally, I am a pittance under 6' 1" (6' 7/8" to be precise), and I weigh 180, give or take a good stuffing or a post practice steam bath. So what size would you recommend I get? Do you think the full legged versions add much compared to the kneeskins? Thanks for your advice, both Rich and Leslie and, if Paul reads this, yours too! Oh, and if the thief who took my FSPro last summer at CZ LCM wants to atone, buying me a B70 would clean your conscience while making this the best Christmas ever for one Pennsylvanian. Just check with Rich first to make sure you get me the right size!

I got a blue seventy size 26 (I'm a little over 6' and a bit under 170) I tried it in practice yesterday. It seemed to fit fine (perahps a bit tight on the shoulder straps). Took under 15 min to put on. After a pre competition warmup i did the following with just a speedo: 25 meter pool All efforts on full rest. All hand touches. Plunge for distance. (I do these all the time. dive from the side of the pool to see how far you glide before your head breaks the surface) 43'. Heavy guys always kill me on this. 25 fly from blocks (13.3) 25 free from blocks (12.1) 25 SDK from blocks (15.3) Changed into blue seventy Plunge for distance 47' 25 fly from blocks (12.8) 25 free from blocks (11.7) 25 free from blocks (11.7) These were pretty legit times with a seperate starter and timer with instructions that the time be as accurate and consistant as possible. As few efforts as I did, I was definitely tired at the end. Maybe because I was freezing. What I really liked was how it felt while swimming slowly. 2 less strokes a length 12-13 as opposed to my usual 14-15. I'll be going to Long Beach where I'll see how it does under true competion conditions.

Jim, I'm a tch taller and a tch fatt . . . er, heavier than you (6'2", 195). I'm in a 30. I'm guessing you'll want to try a 26 and 28. From my experience, which is similar to Rich's (albeit at a much more leisurely, sedate, masters-age-appropriate pace), the suit definitely has some magic in it. Can't you convince B70 that you're working on an article for Outside or Men's Journal or Competitive Gardening Weekly and have them send you a 26 and a 28 -- in the interest of literary verisimilitude, of course? If not, what's $400 to a successful author, anyway? Ask not what the economy can do for you, but what you can do help prop up the economy.

Thanks Bill and Rich for your advice. The suit would definitely be for some upcoming meet sometime in the largely indeterminate future. I would love to do my best to prop up the New Zealand economy, home of B70 Enterprises, right? But I need for the time being to prop up my family a little longer first. Rich, how often have you had cortisone shots, and have you found these to cause any problems with healing? I am waiting till I enter the 80-84 age group at which point I hope to begin living on Brompton's cocktails, that legendary elixir of the 19th century doctors once gave to their terminal patients. I am not sure how I am going to secure this, but the mix of heroin, cocaine, and brandy will prove, I am very hopeful, to cure everything that has, is, and will ever ail me, including sore shoulders. Just a little snifter between laps, and I will be good to go, I am pretty sure.