LZR - Enough is enough

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Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)? Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios? Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs? Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline? Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete, it's time to say stop (don't you think?). The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition. I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication. Coach T.
  • Haven't we done this before? The anti tech suit contingent is attempting more innovative arguments in defense of polyester.
  • Former Member
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    Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)? Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios? Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs? Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline? Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete, it's time to say stop (don't you think?). The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition. I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication. Coach T. LOL here here!
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    Give it a rest already. :shakeshead: The integrity of the sport is not on the line. There are already new suits to compete with the LZR at better prices. 2 dolphin kicks for breaststroke and a flip over IM turn sound fabulous!! I'm all for one handed touches on fly and *** too. AMEN!!!! Let's talk about integrity...when the East Germans and the Chinese were caught using preformance enhancing drugs... the integrity of the sport was damaged forever. Since then, all good swims have come under a cloud of suspected drug use. If you have a problem with advancement...then were the briefs, don't swim with caps and goggles but get over it already. There are those of us that like bodysuits. I haven't worn an LZR or whatever but I do have an Arena Powerskin and an Adidas bodysuit. I like the way the feel on me. I am more comfortable racing in the Powerskin than the briefs. I am in favor of advancement. If you don't like em...quit gripping and don't wear em. But leave it to each individual to decide what is best of him/her and stop trying to ruin advancement for the rest of us.
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    I'll take one handed touches on *** and fly I also want flip turns on them too plus forward block starts on backstroke if not that at least let us curl our toes over the edge unlimited dolphin kicking in every stroke we'll surface eventually for air or turns let us go further than 15 meters plus a roll over free turns for back to *** in IMs Heck, let's all start to race with fins on too. Starts will look sort of awkward...and turns will be harder...but records will fall!
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    Then how about being able to pull on the lane lines for backstroke? Or wear fins and paddles for races too
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    Haven't we done this before?
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    :dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse:
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    As to you Fort, forget the one handed *** touches, ............ Pray, tell us more about these.................... :D
  • The integrity of our sport is on the line here. I don't know about integrity and all that philosophical mumbo jumbo. I wish all these suits weren't around but I am also a pragmatist. I have two practical concerns that just may need to be fixed by some sort of regulation unless the suits become more affordable and/or durable. I am worried about what the very high cost and short life of the suit will do to (a) the accessibility of swimming at the age group level and (b) men's college swimming programs. Both of these could have serious impacts on swimming in the US. So I could see some sort of restrictions at age group and NCAA meets, unless the suits become much more affordable, and durable. As an aside, I talked to the U of Richmond coach about the LZR this morning at some length. He was actually not that convinced that, performance-wise, the LZR represents a quantum leap over the FS-Pro (which he DOES think was a big improvement over the FSII). And he was a little torn -- no pun intended -- about whether to rent the suits for his swimmers going to trials. On the one hand, you want the best available tech...on the other hand, he saw enough suit malfunctions to make him wary. A blown start or turn or taper, these things you train to avoid and are under the control of the athlete/coach. That is not the case if the suit fills up with water. He also worried that Blueseventy would be bought by Nike or some other big shot, who would then jack up the price of THOSE suits.
  • just read an article in OGGI italian magasine about lzr. It is made in lake como, Erba . think women's scarves, mens silk ties. they claim the suit is faster because it massages the swimmer's body therefore, lactic acid build up is not a problem. they attribute this to superbiflex, the fabric used to make the suits. they put the cost as 300 euros. the article goes into detail of the process of making the suit.