Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)? Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios? Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs? Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline? Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete, it's time to say stop (don't you think?).
The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition.
I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster.
Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
Coach T.
Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)? Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios? Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs? Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline? Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete, it's time to say stop (don't you think?).
The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition.
I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster.
Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
Coach T.
Bah! The same can be said for full body suits generally. Or the "paper suits" of yore, or even basic speedos. What about caps and goggles? Then there are wave dampening lane lines (I think they even double the lane lines in elite-level swimming, don't they) and starting blocks. All these things allowed dramatic improvements over the times people swam before them.
As Ande said in another thread, the genie is out of the bottle and it will be well-near impossible to stuff it back in.
Also, some of your comparisons just aren't fair. For example, aluminum bats are prohibited in MLB because they give the hitters an unfair advantage over the pitchers. No such concern with swimming (edit--I guess there is the "haves" and the "have nots" which is a legitimate gripe but not one I agree with). I would guess that golf clubs and balls are regulated (at least in part--I'm just speculating here) because certain clubs and balls can correct for deficiencies in players strokes that takes some of the skill out of the game. Unlike neoprene wetsuits, I'm pretty sure that the LZR does not do the swimming for you...
I personally don't want to go back to the stone ages of swimming. I'm very happy with the technological progress our sport has made over the years.
By the way, in the interests of full disclosure, all I own is a pair of FS Pro Jammers. I don't have any present plans to buy a full bodysuit and I don't care if others do or don't.
every sport allows some innovations and deny's others
pole vaulters use fiberglass poles not bamboo
Swimming has guidelines to follow
www.usms.org/.../part1.pdf
section 102.15 of the FINA & USMS pertains to
DISQUALIFICATIONS
do you feel the LZR falls under:
102.15.9
Swimmers are not permitted to wear or use any device or substance to help
their speed, pace or buoyancy during a race. Goggles may be worn and
rubdown oil applied if not considered excessive by the referee.
I feel we can't go back now the LZR & suits like it have already been approved.
Ande
Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)?
Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios?
Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs?
Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline?
Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete,
it's time to say stop (don't you think?)
The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition.
I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster.
Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.
Coach T.
Why does MLB prohibit the use of aluminum bats or spitting on baseballs or letting players use steroids (okay - two out of three)? Why does NASCAR prohibit fuel injected engines or certain transmission gear ratios? Why does the PGA disqualify certain golf balls or regulate golf clubs? Why can't basketball players where stilts or use a trampoline? Enough is enough, when a piece of equipment can alter the record books and cheapen the physical accomplishments of every past athlete, it's time to say stop (don't you think?).
Swimming's more like Formula One, where there is a drivers' champion and a constructors' champion.
...just waiting for D2 to show up...
The integrity of our sport is on the line here. How about two dolphin kicks for breaststroke or how about adding another arm-stroke to the backstroke turn or allowing IM'ers to turn-over before they touch on the back to *** transition.
I'm against the LZR and any suit that enhances performance and don't think I'll be changing my mind unless they find out swimming naked can make you swim faster.
Give it a rest already. :shakeshead:
The integrity of the sport is not on the line. There are already new suits to compete with the LZR at better prices.
2 dolphin kicks for breaststroke and a flip over IM turn sound fabulous!! I'm all for one handed touches on fly and *** too.
Today's Wall Street Journal has a half page article on the back of the Marketplace, I think (above the weather). It's even got a color picture!
Topic? LZR and tech suits of course. The article is pretty old news to most anyone who's read these threads, but you have to admit the news coverage of anything swimming is always exciting. I couldn't see a writer getting excited for those nylon suits of old with the weird crotch panel and my mommy's jerry-rigging shoelaces tied across the contour back straps.
The only time the integrity of swimming is on the line is when Stud attempts the backstroke.
As to you Fort, forget the one handed *** touches, let's go straight up flip turns on ***.
I'll take one handed touches on *** and fly
I also want flip turns on them too
plus forward block starts on backstroke
if not that
at least let us curl our toes over the edge
unlimited dolphin kicking in every stroke
we'll surface eventually for air or turns let us go further than 15 meters
plus a roll over free turns for back to *** in IMs
Give it a rest already. :shakeshead:
The integrity of the sport is not on the line. There are already new suits to compete with the LZR at better prices.
2 dolphin kicks for breaststroke and a flip over IM turn sound fabulous!! I'm all for one handed touches on fly and *** too.
Heck, let's all start to race with fins on too. Starts will look sort of awkward...and turns will be harder...but records will fall!
You do realize that monofin racing is a competitive sport? I also see no problem with having a fin race at a masters meet.
One of the things I've enjoyed most since coming back as a masters swimmer after a 24 year break is all the changes. I've had a blast learning the new backstroke turns, learning how to SDK, doing drills I'd never heard of, trying the speedy bodysuits, etc. (I'm also happy to escape the high mileage training mentality and train smarter.) I see no appeal in clinging to the old ways and resisting innovation. Swimming is nor an antique; its a sport.
Swimming is not an antique; its a sport.
That is well stated indeed.
I was unaware that pulling on the lane lines in back was against the rules. When did that change?
