I've been giggling about this all morning! Many of the young swimmers from my pool are attending the BYU swim camps starting this week. One of the young guys who always wears brief (racer) style swim suits told me that he isn't allowed to where them at the camp. I pulled up the info on the camp and the info packet does say "no Speedos or bikini briefs are allowed for male participants". I'm sorry, but jammers are no less revealing than briefs! If anything they are more so - in my opinion. I can understand a modest dress code at BYU, but swimmers are so use to seeing each other in these types of suits. I would love to know the thinking behind this dress code? :lmao:
dolphin 2 - ironically your insistence on imposing your morality on BYU really isn't any different than them imposing their morality on people who voluntarily attend their private camps. Maybe you and BYU can just accept each other and tolerate differences.
Doubtful.
I don’t see why BYU (or any other college or university) should take issue about modesty in swimwear. Attempting to implement a modesty policy in swimwear is just an illusory and silly approach to preventing moral decadence much like the taboos againsts excessive skin exposure seen in the Mid East. :shakeshead:
When it comes to swimming, the ordinary commercial off-the-shelf briefs (made by Speedo, Nike, Adidas, etc. for the past 45 years) have been deemed socially acceptable without the interference of wearing excess clothing in the water. :drink:
I don't know: Which is more attractive Elle MacPherson (dating myself) in one of those skimpy SI numbers with just her arms covering her bodacious ta tas or Elle MacPherson in full middle eastern garb? For me, I may not even notice the second person and continue walking my pig (don't imply I am advocating such cumbersome fashion or the oppressive society that may go with it).
If "socially acceptable" is your litmus test for societal greatness, just turn on MTV (my daughter already has it on) and watch "My super sweet 16" or "the Hills" and see our miserable, and yet socially acceptable, future.
BYU policy may be silly and illusory, but is an approach to at least a perceived immorality problem. If you look at the majority of today's youth and like and are impressed by what you see, then by all means, let us stay the course.
BTW, Paul the Portland thing was supposed to be on the down-low. I don't need any disgruntled forumites pouring raw sewage in my lane during my swims (my swims will be stinky enough).
If "socially acceptable" is your litmus test for societal greatness, just turn on MTV (my daughter already has it on) and watch "My super sweet 16" or "the Hills" and see our miserable, and yet socially acceptable, future.
Oh god, please no.
I think the neanderthal, er, I mean Kurt, has a point here. I'm sick of seeing middle school girls in padded push up bras and shorts with one inch inseams or "juicy" stamped on their butt.
You can add "America's Next Top Model" to the list of nauseating TV.
I have a friend who's 12 and 14 year old daughters cut their panties up to be like thongs to see what it is like. Maybe BYU is on to something here. Viva la granny panties!
BTW, Paul the Portland thing was supposed to be on the down-low. I don't need any disgruntled forumites pouring raw sewage in my lane during my swims (my swims will be stinky enough).
Sorry for the "outing"...but to give you hope I survived Austin so maybe you'll sneak thru...I did have to keep my eye on Fort however, when we were in the hospitality tent or the beer garden I made sure i didn't leave anything within her tiny reach!
Good grief, give it a break already. It's a dang private swim camp. Don't go if you don't like it, respect their rights to do what they want, just as we (sort of) respect your right to give us all some sort of social lesson on mid-east garb and sexuality.
I don't believe BYU is asking for your advice. They tend to do things as they see fit in their own ways.
Good grief, give it a break already. It's a dang private swim camp. Don't go if you don't like it, respect their rights to do what they want, just as we (sort of) respect your right to give us all some sort of social lesson on mid-east garb and sexuality.
I don't believe BYU is asking for your advice. They tend to do things as they see fit in their own ways.
Yes, and vote Libertarian.
Former Member
I don’t see why BYU (or any other college or university) should take issue about modesty in swimwear. Attempting to implement a modesty policy in swimwear is just an illusory and silly approach to preventing moral decadence much like the taboos againsts excessive skin exposure seen in the Mid East. :shakeshead:
When it comes to swimming, the ordinary commercial off-the-shelf briefs (made by Speedo, Nike, Adidas, etc. for the past 45 years) have been deemed socially acceptable without the interference of wearing excess clothing in the water. :drink:
Just in case the administrators at BYU may be considering outlawing briefs, maybe the swimmers could send them one of those 1950’s style extortion/ransom notes: :rant3:
Don’t even think of issuing a ban on Briefs or we will come over and let the air out of all your tires!!! :eek:
Happy swimming -
Dolphin 2
Former Member
If you don't like the policy, don't send your children there. There is not much else to be said really.
