I tried on the FS PRO today, it was very tight... even the XXL was tight, although I think the XL will work fine... but, but... it just seems like a full body paper suit... versus the FS 2 which has all the cool material, etc..
Which one is better? $450 dollars is the price here, is there a better way to order it? I'd rather wait for the LZR in the fall if that's the best I can do.
I think we may be somewhat "professional sports obsessed" but what "first world" country isn't? Professional sports obsession may be the byproduct of not having to worry about survival/war/famine on a daily basis... That isn't necessarily a bad thing...
Yes - I think you might be correct. But it seems Dolphin 2 wasn't talking about that.
It is remarkable what humans choose to do with their time and money after they achieve a basic quality of life!
Very nice...Dripping sarcasm emoticon not even required.:agree:
I know what you mean. To save up money to buy a LZR I've decided to start lighting my Cuban cigars with rolled up $20s rather than my customary $100s.
While many high schools, colleges, and universities are emotionaly centered around their athletic department, it's quite obvious that many of those participating in sports are getting their academic records "doped" so they can remain in school. :doh:
And other advanced countries are NOT spending anywhere near the time and money on sports and athletics that the U.S. does. From the post about ASU dropping swimming, it appears that the days of big sports spending are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
Dolphin 2
How do you know these things? Manipulated high school records have existed for a long time - but my anecdotal information (any better than yours?) says many of the abuses have been tamed as the NCAA has reduced rampant recruiting abuses of the past (such as SMU football).
There is a very recent issue with a Kansas basketball player and it looks suspicious. But I think it is increasingly difficult to hide these kinds of things for long. The internet makes it very easy for a rumour to turn into an investigation.
As for what other countries spend on sports....where on earth would you get data on that? Can you show me that per capita the UK, or Japan, or Australia spends less on amateur sports than we do? Or if you want to include professional sports does that mean Italy, the UK, and Germany spend less per capita on soccer than we do on football? Their stadiums are bigger than ours.
How many people quit working for a week when India and Pakistan play cricket?
Do you think Australia spends less on swimming if adjusted for population than the USA? What about Finland vs. the USA for nordic sports?
Heehee! What a funny thread! You can never have too many racing suits, just like you can never have too many specialized strollers for your kids.
The FS PRO is like a miracle suit. It really makes you look about 10 lbs lighter which is why I love mine!!! Or maybe it's because I got the zipper back instead of racerback.
I'll also add that this was a total impulse buy the day before nationals! I wanted spare goggles and said if I can fit into a certain target size, and if they have it in black, i'm going to buy it!
I also recommend the colored FSII's. Thumbs up on style. But watch out - they are sized smaller than the standard FSII (black w/grey tone).
I'm buying at least 1 LZR when they come out.
totally agree michelle, i actually was semi comfortable in my fspro and in agony in my tracer lite.:wiggle:
Hey Lindsay,
Well I hadn't decided yet... I've been considering a LC meet, possibly in August...
One thought Jonathan, if your target meet is not until next year it is quite likely that the price of the current suits will drop as the new suits become more widely available.
Dolphin 2,most of what you say should be on the NSR threads.My wife and I are both MDs.She and I drive in together in our Prius.We have been in the same home for 19 yr.Whether or not competitive swimming is important to me is my business and not the cause of the decline of civilization.By the way,I have read "The Standard Edition of the Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud"(all 22 volumes) and he would turn over in his grave at your use of "Freudian".(Also the LZR is $550 not $450):dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse:
One thought Jonathan, if your target meet is not until next year it is quite likely that the price of the current suits will drop as the new suits become more widely available.
I think we may be somewhat "professional sports obsessed" but what "first world" country isn't? Professional sports obsession may be the byproduct of not having to worry about survival/war/famine on a daily basis... That isn't necessarily a bad thing...
The U.S. has been a "First World" country in the past, but I seriously doubt if it will continue to be one in the future. The U.S. is relying on imported products (including FastSkins & LZRs) too much and even worse, the country is importing way too many science and engineering professionals instead of developing our own home grown talent. :dedhorse:
While many high schools, colleges, and universities are emotionaly centered around their athletic department, it's quite obvious that many of those participating in sports are getting their academic records "doped" so they can remain in school. :doh:
And other advanced countries are NOT spending anywhere near the time and money on sports and athletics that the U.S. does. From the post about ASU dropping swimming, it appears that the days of big sports spending are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
If you're not worrying about the continued loss of technological and business competitiveness in the U.S. and what may be called a "melt down" of the country as an economic super power, you're living in a world of "ignorant bliss" and the chant should be "Roman Empire here we come". :shakeshead:
Sorry for the bad prognostications, but as the old saying goes "Reality sucks doesn't it?" :rant3:
Happy swimming anyway -
Dolphin 2
All I wanted to know was which suit was better...
Thanks for the answer to that...
Personally, I enjoy spending cash on swimming, because growing up as a kid it was always a hardship for my parents/family... Honestly, spending money on swimming is one of the only things I really feel good about. Plus, I've never worn a tech suit and I want to go faster, so ya, I'll buy that.
In fact, I work hard in sales so that one day I can re-invest to make swimming more popular, that is what motivates me the most...