I don't want to age!!

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    Lindsay I would have to give up my trip to Mexico, I age better there.
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    I guess because you refferred to it in your post and linked that way to a sales pitch. I never refer to my signature links. Look, my intention is primarily to share information with you, people who have similar interests. The 100 freestyle that I did a few weekends ago was the 7th fastest of my entire life. At age 31 I'm very proud of that. This race was back to back, right after the 100 IM, usually I would have been totally depleted for another 25-30 mninutes. I've only been swimming 3 times a week, and some dryland, but other than that I've been amazed by how my body has been recovering and adapting. It has been six weeks now since my mother first told me about the (NOT A SALES PITCH) link, and I'm so excited, not because of the $$, but because of the results!! How could I not share this?
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    As I recall, you were trying to do doubles, but couldn't recover. Fort, I meant to congratulate you on your AWESOME Nationals meet. What a 50 Fly!! :bow::bow::bow: As a kid, I couldn't recover from doubles either (so ended up not doing them!) So I don't think it's an age issue. I was 14-15 at the time! I think it's more of an "I STINK" issue!
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    It wasn't the competition pool. It was the diving well, where I personally spent much more time. My friend who had trouble breathing asked about it and was told there were high amounts of chlorine in it (she was also just recovering from bronchitis). Apart from that, being in a pool environment for 10 hours a day for 3 days just does not agree with everyone's respiratory system. However, I agree the facility was way better than most. As I said, I didn't notice any breathing issues until Sunday afternoon. No doubt in my mind it was not the chlorine. It was excessive use of inhalers by Masters swimmers. All kinds of weird chemicals being dispensed in that building over the weekend! :roids:
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    Is there any solid evidence that amino acids really promote the natural production of human growth hormone? Still controversial--depends on which study you read. Most did not use the mega doses that the athletes have tried. Apparently Dara and her entourage believe in it. Or maybe the supplements are a smokescreen.
  • Although isolated protien is very helpful, and this is where the discussion goes a little sideways... Isolated protien is essentially engineered food, it doesn't occur "naturally". Steak protein is so much tastier.
  • Either way, I didn't know Dara was taking so many supplements... I'm firmly against arginine, and nitrogen oxide... just my philosophy... Although isolated protien is very helpful, and this is where the discussion goes a little sideways... Isolated protien is essentially engineered food, it doesn't occur "naturally". Yet, it isn't really "natural" to even train as obsessively as most ahletes do.. Yet, this isn't banned. Hmmm, I'm not sure what your use of quotes around natural implies. It seems to me to have different meanings in each sentence, and so the argument relies on some rhetorical sleight-of-hand. Whereas "naturally occurring" in the first part of the argument implies something produced through nature-as-a-force, "natural" in the second sentence, I think, is a commonly used synonym for "normal", a social construct. Do you mean that it's not normal for some athletes to train as obsessively as they do? In a relatively sedentary society, it's not normal. But it's perfectly natural, in a genetic sense. From a nature-as-a-force standpoint, humans are pretty well adapted to endurance training, and being an endurance predator may have served our species well at some point. Not that it takes much endurance these days to hit the Taco Bell drive-thru for fourthmeal, but our genes have much longer memories than our brains. Couple that with the fact that it's natural, from an evolutionary standpoint, for some people to compete against themselves and others, and it's easy to see how training can turn into a lifestyle choice (not natural-as-normal, by some standards). I think that the argument falls apart if you equalize the use of the word "natural". Maybe this is just a long-winded way of saying what the quotation marks implied... :dunno:
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    Would we not be better not to experiment with the unknowns and think more about our well being. I have been neglecting the steady 3 or 4 times a day the testing of my blood sugar. Today I am going to start it up again after talking to my daughter. Janis was at a meeting yesterday afternoon. A friend of hers was taking minutes of a meeting she was at. Her friend slumped at the table and died. She was a diabetic. All of these potions you get to enhance your abilities could be even more dangerous then you think, just watch the story about the East German athletes.
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    You are right Steak is better. I was at a meeting and talking about diet for swimmers. I told the group about my taking raw calves liver and shaving it very thin and eating it raw. I told the group about the benefits, how it improved our blood. Gave us a natural source of Iron. We got carried away with other things and I forgot to tell them I was pulling their legs. The next day one of the Olympic backstrokers came up to me and said she had tried it , it really tasted strange and did I flavor it in anyway.
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    Still controversial--depends on which study you read. Most did not use the mega doses that the athletes have tried. Apparently Dara and her entourage believe in it. Or maybe the supplements are a smokescreen. Either way, I didn't know Dara was taking so many supplements... I'm firmly against arginine, and nitrogen oxide... just my philosophy... Although isolated protien is very helpful, and this is where the discussion goes a little sideways... Isolated protien is essentially engineered food, it doesn't occur "naturally". Yet, it isn't really "natural" to even train as obsessively as most ahletes do.. Yet, this isn't banned.