Im canceling my subscription to Swimming World.
Yes all of the swimmers picked were VERY worthy and nothing against any of them or their accomplishments.
But your going to tell me that the panel who choose these 6 men and 6 women (and 8 runner ups) didn't deem Susan Von der Lippe worthy of this honor:
I guess something like a total of almost 30 Top 10 times in all 3 courses didn't count? nor did the tally of #1 times on those lists? And simply breaking 5 SCM world records over 2 days is...as we all know...a joke.
And I know this is a reach now...stay with me on this...but being the oldest female swimmer and the first over 40 to make Olympic Trials cuts all while working a job, raising kids/a family, training only 3x a week....yeah, yeah I know thats pushing it...so I won't even mention she made her second trials cuts a month ago since that was done over at an evil USS meet and SW is probably correct in their belief it "doesn't count" in the masters world.
Susan...nice try in 2007...but you'll need to step up a bit more in 2008 if you want to be considered.
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Dear Grumpy Paul,
You somewhat proved my point with your last statement "the next time a 41 year old female masters swimmer from their country qualifies for their trials..". So, I ask you, are there any? Do you know for certain that there aren't other qualifiers or are you basing all your argument on anecdotal evidence. Yes, we know of one case - Susan. There might be others. This is sort of like taking a survey, but only asking one person. For that matter, how many other USMS members have trial cuts? Do you know?
While I understand the timing of the current selection system (with a Oct 31 cutoff) displeases you, at least it is based on information that takes into account all the swims that are reported. The idea of including trials cuts is much harder to do this with. In some countries, trial cuts are easier than they are in the US. In some countries, they don't hold trials. If you can make the B cut, you get to go. With records, at least we come closer to comparing apples to apples.
I do agree with you though that John has gotten to be a real problem.
Dear Grumpy Paul,
You somewhat proved my point with your last statement "the next time a 41 year old female masters swimmer from their country qualifies for their trials..". So, I ask you, are there any? Do you know for certain that there aren't other qualifiers or are you basing all your argument on anecdotal evidence. Yes, we know of one case - Susan. There might be others. This is sort of like taking a survey, but only asking one person. For that matter, how many other USMS members have trial cuts? Do you know?
While I understand the timing of the current selection system (with a Oct 31 cutoff) displeases you, at least it is based on information that takes into account all the swims that are reported. The idea of including trials cuts is much harder to do this with. In some countries, trial cuts are easier than they are in the US. In some countries, they don't hold trials. If you can make the B cut, you get to go. With records, at least we come closer to comparing apples to apples.
I do agree with you though that John has gotten to be a real problem.
