After seeing a woman break 24 seconds and I think we can stop the discussion of "IF" the LZR suit is faster and start thinking "how much faster".
The previous line of suits (Fastskin and so on) were pretty similiar to a shaved swimmer. Sure - they do feel like they make you float, but overall the times seemed to move along "in line" with what I would expect to see in terms of improvements in the sport. If the previous suits would have been that much faster than shaving, you would have never seen people just using the legskins. By the way - for us Masters swimmers there was always the added benefit of keeping in all the "extra layers of skin".
So how much faster are the LZR suits ?
If I had to guess based on the results so far, I would say 0.25 to 0.30 per 50 and double that for the 100. I can see the Bernard going 48 low in the 100 and I can see Sullivan getting close or just breaking the 50 record. It makes sense that Libby Lenton would swim a 24.2 or so in the 50.
I think one of the top regular teams out there should do a test - you need a good amount of world class swimmers training together to be able to do a test. Here is the test I would propose:
8-10 swimmers
2 days of testing
4x50 on 10 minutes all out
Day 1 - swim 2 with a Fastskin2 followed by 2 with the LZR
Day 2 - swim 2 with the LZR followed by 2 with the Fastskin2
Get the averages of all 10 swimmers - maybe drop the high and low and there you go.
Why do the test ? I would HAVE to know. Swimming is a big part of your life and you just set a massive PR using this new technology - my very first question would be " How much was me and how much was the suit?"?
I'm not sure why the fact we're adults has any bearing on this argument. I just think at the point where you've got to wonder if the guy next to you beat you because he was wearing a fancier suit rather than talent, technique and training then the sport has lost something. The only way to avoid this is to require a standard suit.
I think people kind of joke about making everyone swim nude, and obviously that won't happen, but honestly it's not a bad idea. I'd do it if that was the rule.
Because we're masters swimmers and there is already an uneven playing field. There are so many things that factor into who beats who: training time, ability to train, ability to cross train, how many massages you get, whether you're taking creatine, whether you're injured or sick, whether you weight lift, height, genetics, etc. The suit is just another variable. And, at the higher levels, most masters are wearing technical suits anyway.
I could do the nude racing, but women with the Himalayan issue would not like that one bit! That would just be another variable in determining speed ...
I'm not sure why the fact we're adults has any bearing on this argument. I just think at the point where you've got to wonder if the guy next to you beat you because he was wearing a fancier suit rather than talent, technique and training then the sport has lost something. The only way to avoid this is to require a standard suit.
I think people kind of joke about making everyone swim nude, and obviously that won't happen, but honestly it's not a bad idea. I'd do it if that was the rule.
Because we're masters swimmers and there is already an uneven playing field. There are so many things that factor into who beats who: training time, ability to train, ability to cross train, how many massages you get, whether you're taking creatine, whether you're injured or sick, whether you weight lift, height, genetics, etc. The suit is just another variable. And, at the higher levels, most masters are wearing technical suits anyway.
I could do the nude racing, but women with the Himalayan issue would not like that one bit! That would just be another variable in determining speed ...
